The Issue of Boyega, Red-Herring and Perception

the thing is we will be happy once we see the film (only 17 days left!) and we just need to stop worrying about any bad comments and simply stop talking about skin color. no one refers to daisy ridley as "that white actress daisy ridley" the same should apply to boyega.

 

This is true.

Obviously Phasma is a female and wouldn't be considered a clone.

But the rest, if they don't take off their helmets or hear them could be clones. Possibility of using 6-10 different clone models? Clones would ensure loyalty, except in this case with Finn defecting.

I mean imagine this as a JJ type surprise, Finn dies in the movie and for the very last scene the shot cuts to the bridge of a SD and Kylo orders a Stormtrooper to his side who removes his helmet and there is John Boyega back in a Stormtrooper outfit?

If the Empire was depleted enough, theoretically a rogue Imperial warlord could rebuild his Stormtrooper Corps with clones, of a new Clone template.....idk just a thought.

 

My friend "that goup out there" is everywhere. I heard many many times that in USA there is racism of black against white (but it is not good to talk about it). Here in czech we have "that group" of people who doesn´t like gypsy. And it is very well known here that gypsy have "that group" too - a group who scream racist comments against white people. THey steal something, thea are arrested and immediatelly start to scream "Racists, Racists". But also "white pigs, white pigs" Does that sounds familiar to you? So, in every country there are good and bad people. You can´t say Germans are bad and the French are good. But from some strange reason the only thing that pops up in every discussion is the "group" you´ve mentioned I don´t understand why people here are not already tired of this kind of conversation....

 

WHY MUST FINN THREADS TURN ALWAYS INTO RACIAL DISCUSSION'S?

C'MON PEOPLE

THE CANTINA IS BETTER THAN THIS....

 

Too short.

 

Great point but I still remember the marketing for Bridge to Terabithia. I thought I was getting a Neverending story type movie and it was all about dealing with a friends death and denial... I think some marketing campaigns can have negative lasting effects, but hopefully there is no drastic difference like that.

 

very true and great comment

 

Check out the pic on this comic review by Kyle http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2015/11/swnn-review-marvels-star-wars-12.html

Leia, Han and chewie using sabers. Several non-force users have used sabers. Shouldn't anyone who could use a sword also be able to use a saber?

edit: for the record, I kinda agree that it is a bad move. But since Han, Visla, Leia and chewie have all used sabers, lets wait and see 1) if finn is a jedi 2) how good he is with a saber before saying it is a bad move.

 

Lol who writes those comics? They are getting worse and worse.

Yes, but unless they can stop blaster shots with a sword they shouldn't use a sword either.

 

I've come to like the explanation that an energy containment field is generated by a lightsaber that not only gives the blade its shape but allows light-weight contact without burning. It could explain why some strength is required to throw a blade through a limb not just flick a wrist. (It also works for Qui Gon having to rotate his weapon to melt doors.)

Edit: I do like the idea of a particular weapon needing Force use to control/contain the blade. Perhaps a crude homemade unstable lightsaber...

Perhaps he's in a fragile state too - like people often are when overcoming cult indoctrination. A strong soldier but perhaps questioning everything while suffering PTSD. He might want to avoid any military/religious groups for a while which would make his struggles even more heroic.

I've noticed (in myself) there can sometimes be a tension between pride in not seeing people as "other" and ensuring adequate acknowledgment of cultural differences, histories and struggles. I think text based forums can sometimes serve to exacerbate or exaggerate that tension.

 

Honestly....I agree with you. I haven't read any of them personally, but from reading reviews/synopses they seem like mostly turds (except the kanan ones). Seems like they are on track to have luke have a few dozen duels between ANH and ESB with Fett showing up between each duel.

 

I used to read the dark horse comics a lot but haven't bought any Nucanon comics, does Luke fight inquisitors in them?

 

You made the right question - WHO writes those stories? EU was just that - EU. Now EVERY crap story is canon. I understand that - a canon stamp = more money a way to diminish the franchise...

 

The opening post of this thread has the issue of race at it's core. How can the thread "turn into" a racial discussion, if it was already one to begin with?
The OP made it clear he thinks that the people who doubt Finn is force sensitive do so because of his race.

 

We're somewhat in agreement over your second point, but your first point was insufferably silly. Last time I checked, and this may have changed without my knowledge, but Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, Max Von Sydow, Domhall Gleeson, Andy Serkis and Adam Driver are all white dudes, soooo??? Also, last time I checked, the Star Wars universe, as the movies go, is about as white as a sausage fest can get, sooo0??? Also also, last time I checked, the past history and current culture of film making is, largely, white dudes directing white dudes who's characters were written by white dudes, soooo??? Which demographics are being "overly represented?" If one black guy and several women equals "over representation," then you're likely one of the people who we should genuinely be worried about A movie that is not 90% white dudes? The horror! Think of the children.....

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I'm sorry, but how is this "new thing" somehow an issue? You said women are becoming leads in everything. Do you have any idea how many films star women? In 2014, 12% of films had a clear, female protagonist. 75% had a clear, male protagonist. But yes, women are now the leads in "everything."

 

Since the discussion has obviously moved on, and that's fine, I just wanna hear people's over/under on whether or not Finn will become a jedi. I'm at 50%, anyone else have a number?