The Issue of Boyega, Red-Herring and Perception

The official poster will stand just as long. Can't picture all of that emphasis for the sole purpose of obscuring a reveal we all expect to see (Rey also being FS). That's the major issue with the red-herring theory.

 

Question as I'm not that familiar with people being born force sensitive.

Can anyone be born force sensitive? or is it something passed down to you only if one of your parents was force sensitive?

I've only seen the movies. I remember there being a lot of force sensitive persons in the PT, but in the OT only Obi-Wan, Yoda, the Skywalkers and the sith emperor were force sensitive. At the end of Return of the Jedi only Luke and Leia were left.

From seeing that I would guess that moving forward if there were no other jedi, only Skywalkers and Sith could be force sensitive.

Or could anyone be born force sensitive?

 

How is Aragorn simply a human?
I find the choice of Aragorn as an analogy to Finn really curious since he actually has a lot of similarities with Rey instead. He is the one with the special lineage, the one whose ancestors had destroyed the evil guys before, the one who refuses to accept his destiny.

 

According to Lucas everyone has a degree of Force sensitivity, but some are more gifted than others. Prior to the PT, the Sith tried to 'game the system' so to speak. The Force answered this by producing Anakin immaculately to again balance the Force. So, I imagine there are people born with varying degrees of FS all the time, but it doesn't make them Jedi, Sith, or whatever... in the normal course of their lives they come across as any combination of coordinated, skilled, lucky, perceptive, convincing, etc... There has even talk that Han (being a lucky gambler and adept at flying the MF through the asteroid field) showed signs of being FS, though it hasn't been proven.

 

right on man. Yup, the acts of those without superpowers have the most impact..

 

I agree as well, spot on explanation. I just don't believe this applies to Finn given what we know. Had they just kept to the defecting stormtrooper warrior, I would have been on that bandwagon big time.

 

Yes it does. He aged slower than normal heroes because of his lineage. He wasn't a regular human. That means he woukd have been more skilled because of experience and time to train. So what you are saying is that you have no problem using the same Logic to Rey? She can also have huge impact without the force. A regular Skywalker saving the day?

 

Well yes, thinking about the movies I can definitely agree with your point of view.
I think reading the books gives a different perspective on the characters attributes. The description and influence of magical powers and items was always very subtle and never once did I get the impression that he was representing an ordinary man or that Legolas had an advantage over him. On the contrary I always had the impression that the Eldar and Maiar blood of the Numenoreans put them above the Mirkwood elves in any kind of "special" attributes.

 

What do I need to 'get used to'? Better yet, what part of I don't care one way or the other do you not understand? And thirdly, what part of my post clarifying how most white people do not care about the color of athletes and the color of actors who entertain them did you dislike? I understand how folks want equality but I am beginning to wonder if that is not enough for you.

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You are seeing what you want to see on this thread. I commented most white people do not care the color of atheletes and actors and you disliked it. Division will always be there for those who want to hate.

 

You answered my question. Thank you.
Because they should not be that different. No one is applying this to Rey, whom Daisy says...

“For me, the idea of her being called a ‘hero’ or a ‘heroine,’ I think that’s almost wrong, because the whole thing is she’s a normal girl going on a journey,” she says.

She has said this in one way or another on different occasions, while John has said that Finn is like a superhero, his defiant reaction to the official trailer. Saying that Finn is like BOTH Han AND LUKE, amomg many other things. All ignored to box him into being non force sensitive. Why is it such a controversial thing? Why is the possibility such a point of contention?

To me, I have zero issue with both being FS and becoming Jedi. But there is a huge push back and resistance to the idea of Finn being so..with the regular guy excuse as one of the alternatives.

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You are the one bringing race into this. Not me, I have not mentioned it once. I'm making a observation. Not sure what you are talking about. You make these comments without botheing to listen, read or consider what is being said. This is your fall back .

There is no difference between Finn and Rey. There is no reason both can't be FS and become Jedi.

 

You read way into that and inferred a lot of things. I'll just leave it there along with your response.

 

I don't agree with you often but that was a great post, aside from the alleging folks want to see him get beat by Kylo, I see your position. My point is and has been that the majority of white folks don't care one way or another--in sports or in movies. There are stupid people that do hate, but there are also good people that just simply see things differently. Don't let the ignorance of the few speak louder than the love of the many. I hope you respect my honesty and opinions as much as I admire yours.

 

And there are also a group of people out there, like you have said on IMDB and Xbox live and so forth, that aren't really racist or chauvinistic, but are maybe worse in a way because they just speak the most vile things just to hurt anyone's feelings and belittle whomever sees their comments or hears their words. Some people just love to spew forth a fountain of insults to whomever for no particular reason other then to cause pain. Their is no logical discussion with these type of people or understanding their reasoning.