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SPECULATION The Last Skywalker

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by PoolShark, Feb 2, 2018.

  1. Soren

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    hm, this doesn't seem fun, I haven't read anything you just said. If it were me under another name who's dare? are you crazy? how many usernames do you use across the internet?

    that being said, LIAM! NEESON! do you want to make! a movie! with a little boy! he likes god! do you think he'll see?

    any how, contests, school papers, that's stuff you can't submit other people's, concepts on? without listing a source. none of that there is anything but fan fiction, but like,

    the point wasn't to say he wants rights to star wars, it's a free galaxy, everyone has rights

    FREE MOVIES! you guys don't think it would be cool? if they're free, and 14 hours at least, epic Oh! Oh you know what?

    do you know what the night sky looks like? I wanna see stars, in star wars, for once, not blue dots, anyway no theatre won't play them, it'd bring hundreds of people in to your theatres of every age, all day long, every day, so long as you play, and then they'd buy other movies a lot while they're there, cuz star wars you see any day you want, go see more, go see more, go see more, you know?

    It's not, not happening, I just wanted to see if you guys wanted to talk about the NEW star wars movies here, you know?

    (the whole story is ancient myth) Hi, I'm the avatar
     
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    I really hope your fanfiction isn't as incomprehensible as this is.
     
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  3. Soren

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    how come all our books are gone? we got, treasure island, peter pan, almost nothing, shakespeare? and uh, pride and prejudice, and probably, dracula, all existing over 100 years ago, so no copywrite, ever whatsoever, toherwise, Hades would be an owned character,

    Disney wasn't fast enough, they just, couldn't burn all the Hercules books, you know?
    beauty and the beast was stolen, they say the OLD myth was, nothing like what they did with Belle, that even calling her belle, was original, and something about a rose, something something, original movie,
    nah, burned books, flood the market

    Pirates of the Caribbean too, you know how many books, that descriptive sentence encompasses, including Elizabeth Swann's? they had a ride, called that, but there's, millions of books about pirates, of caribbean oceans, and now, I couldn't SELL, a single one with that title, without being assaulted and imprisoned,
    however, if they, prosecuted, someone ELSE over selling it, and it came out,, the story was ancient, they'd go to jail
    original characters, doesn't matter, if I used that, descriptive sentence, like what, wars of the stars? scary,
    that sound like jedi marketing to you? or mafia

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    @Oursourced
    incomprehensible? are you okay? maybe you should lie down.. who's your favorite character?
     
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    I wonder where you got the idea of the title of this thread from.
     
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    Okay, other than the insane ramblings of Soren....Anyone want to talk about the premise of the thread?

    I'm not so sure that Disney wants to close the door forever on the Skywalker bloodline.

    I think that there will be a significant time lapse before ep IX and that Kylo Ren will have matured significantly. I wouldn't be surprised to see them revisit the story arc of Jacen Solo and give Ben Solo a child. I could then see dozens of different ways that the story of the Skywalker bloodline goes on. If I were writing it, and it's a good thing I'm not, I'd have the child of Ben Solo have no Force sensitivity whatsoever, and that realization drive his character development. You could have the "redemptive" (redemption is tough for Ben, but maybe a Vader-esque scene at death would do) moment be in the love of a parent for their child.

    We could get in ep IX a Kylo Ren that is no longer a brooding man-child but still give him room to be emotive in that brilliant way that Adam Driver brings to the screen.

    The Skywalker story about how a single bloodline affected events at a galactic scale over 3 generations could wrap up neatly and still have room for some Arthurian prophecy of a once and future king who would return at a time of great need.

    Lucasfilm could either leave it at that and never go back to the Skywalkers, or they could dust it off at their convenience.
     
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    I feel like there's only a few option(s):

    1) Ben could be redeemed (and survive), but I personally I could not see this happening very easily. A troubled kid, regardless of his self determined justified reason(s), can't kill assumed innocents (his father and LST) in cold blood just because and sit down at the dinner table with me. How many more did Kylo kill?
    More likely he will be redeemed in death like Anakin, however he will need to really do something fantastic in IX, or have done something fantastic in the past.....As far as him having a child, I just don't think that will happen. If there is anything TLJ got wrong, it was the excess of characters encroaching on our heroes. Unless, there is more episodes soon, it will need to be a more basic approach.

    2) I am still holding out hope Rey could be something to Luke (or a Skywalker descendant), but I have lost a little faith in the storytelling at this point, like waiting for the shoe that never drops. However, if Rey was something more to Ben, or he hid/protected her in the past from something, it may also help his redemption arc further. Ideally, this would honor George's legacy of SW with the stories of Anakin, his children and grandchildren (a final force dichotomy of Anakin) even if the story itself is completely different.

    3) As it stands at present, it seems like TPTB could be treating the Skywalkers as a kind of 'force aberration', that Rey may help erase so to speak. This bothers me to the core if true, as there were/are many ways to pass the baton or story without destroying that family and 30 years of my head canon. I am personally a sucker for happy endings and would love for Rey to be a Skywalker in place of Kylo. Let her story, and Daisy's be dusted off in 30+ years if SW is still around. When Rian's trilogy or whoever makes the movies beyond 2021, that can be the time to pick some new characters outside of Skywalker. I know many think that with the end of the Skywalkers it means that anyone is a hero, blah, blah. Isn't everyone someone, and if these new heroes have children, won't they also have a legacy by name? I feel like that is a weird, and misinterpreted dynamic people seem to be attaching themselves to after TLJ.
     
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    I really wish I had C3PO here to translate this.
     
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    Well, If Rey definetly is not a Skywalker and Kylo dies, the impact will be so important and the saga will have some kind of sense. This could be a tragedy of great proportions. Tragic, sad, painful and fateful. The family that brought equilibrium/balance/life/death to the galaxy disappears forever.
     
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    As I noted in another thread, I personally felt Disney/LFL perhaps overdid it a bit in stressing how their future films were separate from the Skywalker saga.

    I'm hopeful they will continue to develop at least Luke Skywalker's story. I feel there is such a gap -- a canyon, if I'm being honest to how I feel -- between Episode VI and VII, chronologically and emotionally. Luke must have done and seen so much, and I feel there are great storytelling opportunities there, and not only for him but with relevance to the Force and even Snoke and the First Order.

    I'm hoping for this as well. I think, given the state of the Resistance (Rebellion reborn) and Rey's early entry into Jedihood, the story would benefit itself and its characters with some chronological distance from Episode VIII.

    Giving Ben a child would give him something to care about, and that would be very interesting prospect, especially if the child had no known Force sensitivity as you suggested. I would worry much for the child, though, given Ben's unstable mind and volatile ways.

    Then there would be the question of the mother. Rey would be a shocking reveal and something seemingly incongruent with where Ben and Rey left off in the previous episode, which would then require some exposition to explain to the audience why they were in such a relationship.

    Allowing, just for a moment, for the possibility: perhaps Rey would (and likely wrongly) believe a child could turn Ben, as she thought she could in VIII but could not, as she learned. That could be a rather risky move with both the story and the audience.

    I agree that Adam's performance with the material he was provided was great.

    Since his brooding is so deeply rooted in his Kylo Ren persona, that would be a formidable challenge for him to overcome between episodes. But people can change and surprise us in wonderful ways.

    I still hold out hope for Ben that he can perform a second Return of the Jedi.

    And wouldn't that be ironic: when Luke, in his standoff with Ben, declared he (Luke) would not be the last Jedi. We're strong lead to expect Rey is going to the next Jedi. Imagine if she is not, or at least not at first, and it is Ben who then returns to being a Jedi, while Rey goes on to other things.

    I agree! I hope they do not close the door forever on future Skywalker stories. Don't let too much dust gather there, I'd say.

    I'm sure they're aware the Skywalker name alone is, simply in business terms, more than worth its weight in gold in terms of promoting films, books, and other merchandise. But that would be the wrong reason to continue telling Skywalker stories (i.e. because they make money).

    Good Skywalker stories, on the other hand, would be worthwhile, I believe, and something to be encouraged.

    Shmi Skywalker is the least developed Skywalker, and I sense there are many canon stories yet to be told.
     
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    At this point, I hope Reylo becomes a thing and Rey redeems Ben and then the two of them continue the Skywalker bloodline to be continued in RJ's trilogy but as very peripheral characters. I doubt I will get my wishes because I'm concerned Disney kind of just wants to make core-fans twist in the name of doing crazy stuff that the wider audience will go "oooo ahhhh" about. Not that my desires reflect the core audience, but I think what I *don't* want to see is what would appeal to the wider audience. =\

    Kylo 4ever. Reylo 4probably. Peace.
     
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    It occurred to me after reading your post that my Arthurian prophecy could even be a play on the original prophecy of the chosen one.

    Yoda: A prophecy that misread, could have been.

    You would have everybody speculating..."OK, so we got a Skywalker that is strong in the Force, but is it Vader/Kylo or Luke???"
     
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    What if:
    At the end of IX, Kylo Ren is dead, and a female KOR lands her shuttle at Canto Bight and picks up Broom Boy. She takes her mask off and Broom Boy calls her Mom.
    It is heavily implied (But never specifically spelled out) that the unnamed female Knight of Ren is Kylo Ren's girlfriend and Broom Boy is her son with Kylo.
    :-|
     
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    Well they did say that Rian's trilogy has nothing to do with what's already been established. That includes the Saga.
     
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    Does that also include Star Wars? ;-)
     
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    Here is a possibility I would find interesting- Broom boy being Luke's child by Aya, the force sensitive girl he met on L'ewel, especially since she visited Canto Bight in the Legend of Luke Skywalker. It would be a nice nod to the old draft of the OT where Luke's sister was not Leia but another girl bought up in another part of the galaxy who would only appear in episode 6.

    I also don't think Kylo should die, but instead of one last Skywalker maybe there could be two Skywalker lineages, one who leads the FO and the other who are clearly rebels (since the boy exhibits the rebel ring at the end of episode 8)....in legends, I recall the Skywalker bloodline continued with both Ania Solo and Cade Skywalker, so something similar could happen here as well.

    Rey's role in the trilogy could be that of an Obi-wan character who trains broom boy, especially since the prequels were as much about Obi as they were about Anakin, and Luke could be seen as a Qui Gon type.
     
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