The Mandalorian General Discussion

I think that the size and significance of casual viewers is overstated a little sometimes when evaluating the propriety of creative choices. How many casual viewers of a show would you expect to tolerate a two year wait between series that are only 8 episodes/about 6 hours long?

 

I would have to agree that the ratio of casual viewers to "informed viewers" has definitely dropped. I would say the majority of casual viewers from Season 1 and 2 likely have gone back and done their homework. There are many playlists for episodes of TCW and Rebels that relate to these characters, and not to mention, there has been a two year pause to get caught up. At this point, anyone that has made a conscious decision not to do so, that is on them. There still has to be a slight curve there, however, and there will always be those deep cuts that are just for the hardcore fans. I think Jon and Dave are doing a great job keeping things in context for the different levels of viewers. That's why I think the Grogu/Din reunion will be better addressed than it has been so far.

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Also, just to once again defend the plot decision and the series as a whole, Book of Boba Fett served purpose to those casual viewers by crossing over Mando's storyline by being a bridge over that two year period. I'm fairly certain that casual to moderate viewers would have enjoyed BoBF if left to their own opinions. It was all the "coulda/shoulda/wouldas" within the fan base that were so vocal in criticizing the series, turning people off of it.

 

For a few minutes in her first appearance but she has long away just melted into that just is the character.

It did take a couple of appearances for Greif Targa to stop being Apollo Creed though. Never really took me out of it but Weathers had a 45 year head start as Creed to overcome in my head just as a name.

 

Big HEADS UP, folks! They are showing S3E7 Chapter 23 tonight at Celebration...

So internet carefully to avoid SPOILERS!

 

Probably my least favorite character in the GFFA...

 

This.

 

I apologize if this has been addressed in another thread, or even this one.

I watched the first season of The Mandalorian again recently. I just finished the season finale last night. If Moff Gideon has at least one TIE fighter, lots and lots of stormtroopers, death troopers and the really big gun, why hire bounty hunters to capture Grogu? It seemed like Gideon's vast resources shown in the finale made the hiring of bounty hunters in the premier an odd choice.

 

'Cause everybody would scatter if Gideon's Imps came a-knocking? And, bounty hunters are trained to find people, which your random soldier generally is not... I would imagine.

 

With the trackers that the bounty hunters had, I don't see why Gideon's own forces couldn't just land at the camp where Grogu was being kept and take the place over quickly. The trackers seem to eliminate the need to even look for anyone.

 

I mean, objectively looking at this; Assuming you have to be a member of the guild to get a tracker, OK the Imps could hire a hunter for the task and specify that they would accompany this individual to the target, etc. Add a premium as most bounty hunters we've seen prefer to work alone. but this still leaves the issue that if the pirates detect the imps arriving in the system or on the planet, they scatter (keeping in mind Mando had to learn how to ride a blurg because the Razer Crest would've notified the pirates he was coming).

So theoretically, the hunter is hired, at extra cost, and the imps send him/her in alone to avoid scaring off the pirates holding grogu until the hunter signals the coast is clear.
This still presents a show of force from the Imps, who are basically in hiding, which could alert the New Republic that something is going on and potentially show their hand.

Whereas putting a bounty out, to as many hunters as possible (which is what they did and is evidenced by IG-11) and sending in lone hunters one after the other until one is successful, doesn't alert the wider galaxy to their plans, and fits with their MO of bringing in outside help for tracking and capturing purposes (Boba Fett and all the other Hunters on Vaders Star Destroyer in Empire).

Also, the contract for grogu in ep 1 isn't even put out by Gideon himself, it's all done through Werner Herzog's character - is a front with his run-down group of stormtroopers to keep up appearances that the only imps around are a disorganized small group that can't do much harm.

So maybe the imps could've done it themselves, but I believe that at the time of ep.1 secrecy and misdirection were their primary concerns. And this didn't change until Mando followed his conscious and Gideon realized it was time to pull back the curtain.

Just my two cents

 

FWIW: I still cannot get over how Vader had less force power in his legs than Kenobi had in his fingertips.

Also, that isn't how it ended originally. See Gillard's interview.

/end derail

 

"But he ain't got no legs..."

 

I think it was done because it's more interesting to the viewer to do it that way. That's how we get Mando into the story and I liked it. I just think of practical things when I see stuff. It was when I saw Gideon with all these troops and equipment and making it clear how important getting Grogu is to him, I thought, "Couldn't you have gotten him yourself? Those pirates were in the middle of nowhere. You could kill everyone and not leave a trace of imperial involvement." But that would be boring and we wouldn't have a show if he did.

I also wondered why Gideon gave Mando and friends hours to decide if they were going to come out. There are things like that in the show I don't get. "Come out or I'll kill you! You have five hours to decide!" Seriously?

 

Whatchu been watchin, Forrest? He shur did, be for he done jumped.

 

Oh definitely, I look at movies and TV the same way so I was going for an in-universe reason as to why other than the obvious narrative reasoning.

but yes, you are correct, it all served to get Mando into the story, but I'm less bothered by him not going to get Grogu himself off the bat than I am by him giving them an outrageous timeline to surrender. I mean other than giving our heroes time for IG-11 to show up and Swiss army knife his way into the bar and then into the sewers oh, and conveniently be around to save Mando's life... the only argument I could make is that Gideon gave them so much time because of his ego and pride in his imperial arsenal and he enjoyed whipping it out and slapping it on the table for all to see and wanted to savor that moment.

 

Yup, I appreciate the in-universe explanation!

 

I can't believe how badly this once great show was run into the ground... I don't think I will even watch season 4 if it gets made.

The show wasted it's time and ours.

 

You're entitled to your opinion. But voicing your displeasure without going into why you feel this way doesn't contribute to a discussion.

If you liked the first two seasons, it sounds like Season 4 is likely to be a 'return to fold.'

 

I'm curious why you think your opinion speaks for me?