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The Mandalorian S2E3 - Chapter 11: The Heiress

Discussion in 'The Mandalorian' started by Angelman, Nov 13, 2020.

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    Yeah, that could be, but I think Din has to realise basically he has to stop being so trusting with everyone (e.g. the prison breakout, Cobb, etc) and that he might want to read the fine print every single time.

    And also, I might sound like a Bo-Katan enthusiast here, but THEY SAVED HIM AND THE CHILD TWICE ALREADY. Perhaps after learning all her story, he can cut her some slack??

    I am just saying I'm seeing some potential for that trust to develop, especially since there is a larger story about being a Mandalorian and what that means, and so far we have learned Din is such a hero that he might find belonging and meaning helping them to retake Mandalore.
     
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    Whaaaat? Din is too trusting? Surely not. :D

    Yes, and he saved her too (or at least helped save her mission), so maybe they can find some common ground even though she's one of those immoral Mandalorians who take their helmet off for any old reason. :p I am 100% sure we'll see more of Bo and the Mandalore plot, never fear.
     
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    How about this?:

    If Din ends up with a distaste for The Watch as a cult, does that affect his quest with Baby Yoda?

    Would he, if disillusioned with his own dogmatic sect, decide that the Jedi Order is no place for the child?
     
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    Can we get a bigger version of that?
     
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    I hope he can keep the good things about his upbringing while trashing the bad stuff--assuming that it's really true that it's a "cult"--but I hope he doesn't let the Jedi have Baby Yoda to keep.

    Yes, the kid needs training, but he also needs family. After all the terrible things that we've seen happen when Jedi separate kids from their parents, please no. (Yes, I acknowledge that apparently for a thousand generations things were cool with the Jedi Knights, but what we've seen of what happens to the "order" of Jedi in the nine movies makes me kind of sick.)
     
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    Hope so!!!

    Also, something that Katee said about the story how Gideon got the Dark Saber as "there is a story there and we will find out" in this interview so I think it's not the last we've seen of her.

    https://www.etonline.com/media/vide...ckhoff-on-surreal-live-action-debut-exclusive

    I might be wrong, but thinking of everything that has transpired between Ahsoka and the Jedi, I don't think she would be so enthusiast about following the Jedi way.

    i am no jedi.gif
     
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    Yes and yes!

    I can't wait to see Din's face--or you know, helmet--when he finds out she's not actually a Jedi. :D But I think she'd be a great teacher for Baby Yoda because of that.
     
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    Yes of course we can.

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    Yeah I agree, let's leave the frogs live their life :D
    btw I feel bad for all those eggs the child eat, those frogs might be an endangered species, exterminated by empire or somebody else

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    One code cylinder - Captain, two - Commander. Our nameless guy is Captain. ( technically was )

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    I have been trying to sort through my mixed reaction to Bo-Katan showing up in this episode. I mean, I was excited to see her in live action, and I loved the action sequences with the Nite Owls.

    But I guess because I identify so strongly with Din, the way she dropped the bomb that he was a cultist and mocked "This is the Way" (the first time) when he realized she'd manipulated him... Ouch.

    (On the other hand, it was kind of hilarious that Din told BO-KATAN KRYZE that she wasn't a Mandalorian. :D It was like the beginning of one of those Southwest Airlines "Wanna get away?" commercials...)

    But I feel like these two Mandos have so much in common with their backgrounds, that if they could just sit down and talk, they'd learn from each other. Like, we know Bo was part of a terrorist group, the Death Watch, and we know that Din is a part of something like it, or at the very least he was the guy that did something terrible on Alzac III and liked killing people for "target practice" (as Xi'an and Ran report in chapter 6).

    But we also know from Rebels that Bo renounced said terrorists and didn't even feel worthy of ruling Mandalore in part because of that at one point. And Din no longer has anything in common with his old crew. #Growth!

    So while I still am not all that keen on Bo's methods at the moment, I respect how far she's come. I'm sure we'll see more of Bo in future episodes somewhere, but I hope she and Din can find more common ground. (Although Star Wars characters sitting down and communicating...never happens. :p)
     
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    Oh yeah, his old crew is :

    1) We don't know who really adopted him and trained him as mandalorian. We can assume that he is not alive anymore, otherwise we should have met him already. This is what I assume is his real crew, like family, like closest people.

    2) The mandos which were hiding on Nevarro, they were like his secret second family members. Although we saw the heavy infantry mandalorian showing disapproval and disrespect to Din for doing the job for the empire, which I can understand somehow having in mind the history they share. Well they are mostly deceased as we understood in ch.8.

    3) The team he was working with, i.e. Qin, Xi'an and the rest, they tried to betray him and are now locked on that prison ship. I think he showed some sentiement leaving them alive but locked in prison. This is like killing them would be too easy and painless, so they should be locked on that ship. And their boss is either killed in the attack or locked somewhere too. I don't think that they were crew at all, most probably he had a low period and was working with them for some time. Once he was back on his feet he split and took his own way.

    4) The bounty hunters ... well ... he and the mandos from Nevarro killed a lot of them. I don't think he was ever close to them, probably he had to tolerate them to some level due to guild obligations, but that's all he had with them.

    I think he has lost his family and the small one is everything he has right now.

    I am quite OK with her methods in the serial, she is biting the enemy and re-arming her people. The loss for my enemy is a win for me, regardless of the methods. She is in war, or better say - the war didn't ended for her and will not until she get the darksaber back to Mandalore. One day she may take over Mandalore, or what is left of it. You have to see her dedication, Mando is just a tool for her in this episode, but something may develop in the future. Have you noticed her look at the end, she was looking after him leaving that ship, and the look was kind of promising something?

    I quite understand her mocking the Watch. Apart from being a cultist they have done terrible things, going from terrorists to criminal organization I think they have fallen to the bottom. I don't think anyone on Mandalore really respect them. Seems that Din's group have separated and kept their values, but we don't know that much of their history. Din was too small when the Clone Wars ended, so he may not know too.

    Mandos never sit calm to talk :) they rather shoot their way through :) as we saw in this episode. I don't expect gentle approach from them, they seems to be analogues to the sith in respect to patience and approach to people.
     
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    Did the closed captioning identify Frog folks species in any way by chance? I have not checked.

    Damn that's good. Coupled with what Ahsoka will tell him about the Jedi from her own point of view possibly setting up the Jedi of this time frame as an "enemy".
     
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    in answer to your first question No it didn’t.

    As for wouldn’t go as far as having the Jedi as a enemy but I can see Ahsoka helping him come to the decision that he is the best person to look after Baby Yoda ( with help) rather then leave him with a group of people he knows nothing about.
     
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    Wookieepedia still lists them as "unidentified frog species", so I'd be surprised if the answer is in the CC.

    But hey, could be a big find if it is!
     
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    They kinda fit two other characters in pop culture from not so long ago but not for any potential entanglements of sorts, more for the personality types (Din's hero complex, his role with The Watch and Bo's path to leader and current status of getting back what she feels it's hers):

    jon-snow-daenerys-2.jpg

    I just read this pretty interesting piece speculating on what could come for The Mandalorian if we think about the Mandalore plot and I don't think it's out of the possible paths (to hear more of the war to recover Mandalore):

    https://www.cinelinx.com/movie-news...an-and-its-impact-on-other-star-wars-stories/
     
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    Comparing Din and Bo to Jon and Dany is like casting a curse on them.

    Also, it should be obvious to anyone and everyone that Bo will be back this season.
     
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    Absolutely. But after a great meal of course, the best way to take a good nap XD.
    Lord, he has to eat something!

    Or at least drink something... with a beskar straw.
     
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    Thanks for that article... I have to say if they ditch the baby to focus on politics I will riot! But quietly, at home crying in the corner. :p

    I think with the introduction of the darksaber last season, the fight for control of Mandalore being a feature of the show was inevitable. What’s weird is that Din just seems so uninterested. I guess if Moff Gideon drags Baby Yoda into the mix somehow, that could get him fired up, but he just doesn’t seem to care, right at this moment anyway, what happens to that “cursed planet.”

    Maybe part of his character arc for the future will be embracing The Cause, but for now he seems pretty content just minding his own business and figuring out how to take care of this smol person. I have to admit after all the Skywalker movies in which The Whole Galaxy And Life As We Know It are at stake, it’s been sort of a relief to enjoy a smaller, more intimate story about one guy and his weird green kid. I would miss that a lot if the show changed.
     
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    That awkward moment when your new GF asks you to help find her missing Krayt Dragon.

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    Katee did an interview recently where she pretty much confirmed Bo's return.
     
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    Well, hopefully not. I trust more Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni than Benioff and Weiss and the big difference here is that it's Dave's characters (should we call it Filoni-verse? LOL) so I trust he will deliver a better ending.

    And yep, I should have said, Dany in Season 2-6 and Jon in Season 2-5, not the terrible S8.

    It makes sense that she will be back.
     
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