SPOILER The Mandalorian S3E6 Chapter 22- Guns for Hire

Great episode Bryce has done it again. Also congrats to her husband Seth Gabel making his Star Wars debut as the bartender droid. Hope to see more cameo appearances from the Gabel/Howard family.

 

Sorry to strongly disagree with you at few points.
As I have to state all around the internet because in these times you have to choose your labels or be labeled, I never had trouble with "black" elves in Rings Of Power and since being a kid, knee deep in pop culture and huge fan of DC Comics, I did love characters like John Stewart or Static Shock and as a kid grewing up in central Europe which is racially pretty much homogenous, seeing characters and actors of different races was something fresh and interesting.
I was surprised a lot more growing up, about the racial problems in US and around the world, because even tho the representation is now more prevalent, the pop culture when I was a kid from a small country make it seem like in those holy lands, there are people of different races living the same standards in peace, with different culture backgrounds and flavors adding to the mix. Add to it how huge Hip Hop was next to it, pouring down in Europe.
Yeah, how wrong my perception was back then...

You mentioned Whitney Houston, yeah, but that was actually the gimmick, a singer playing a singer in the movie, cameo that sold it and while she wasn't seasoned TV or Movie star, the movie worked.
In this instance, when you have load of talented actors, yep, I can see Lizzo being pulled out as a cameo because of her popularity in music, but it didn't work for me. And yeah, probably for her fans, it was awesome to see her in Star Wars or for people who seek representation on nowadays popular culture – but, you could have had Janelle Monae for example, singer - check, representation - check, good actress - check or any other super talented people of color if we are going by these metrics alone. What I care about is really the story, writing, acting and how they sell it to me.
If it worked for others, cool for them and it's OK.
Sure, I am white male heterosexual for people who don't know me and if it was Harry Styles in the role and I did criticize his performace, then I would be safe, right? But suddenly, I am against representation and I don't get the culture...
Going by that logic, nobody should comment on anything unless it directly affects them and I am kinda missing the grey shades in the world of black and white, where everyone is shutdown on default because people are tired, frustrated and instead of having conversations, it's easier to voice opinions and shutting everyone off.

I honestly think that Lizzo is beatiful woman, great and acomplished music performer, but the acting... not so much from what I have seen and as I stated, even Jack Black didn't work for me and the whole set-up made it to stick out.
I was looking forward to latino Batgirl movie, unfortunately, didn't make it... I am looking forward to Blue Beetle and I wonder if and how will the planned Superman movie with Michael B Jordan turn out.
Because, representation matters, it also makes the stories and worlds more interesting and adds variety, but if they screw it up and the stories are bad, or the acting is bad, then let's be fair. The state of DC movies right now is so bad that what is left is hope and I want more things from movies, than wasting the talents of John Boyega on basically running around and shout Rey while treating his rumored force sensitivity as a running and hinted on gag.

In my world, it's not the fans that are enemies, but the white suits in the companies that make these decisions where they basically tick off boxes, go straight into rainbow, green and other washings and treat everyone as if that is enough. Look at Willow, that was basically a mess and something that the middle aged creators thought might appeal to nowadays young audience... and that was it.
Of course, if some people are downright biggots with small world view in their head, well, then there is rarely any help and rarely any possible discussion on what are their reasons.

But the people in charge are succesful in rule and conquer tactics in business and our world in general, because instead of people fighting for themselves and transform the establishment to better reflect everyone's voice and to be closer to serve the needs of people instead of mostly taking advantage of them, they fight and bicker among each other instead and everyone is frustrated one way or other, while the people in charge syphon the dollars and don't give a damn, because as a customer or employee, you are basically a number that can be put down to statistics and monetized

I think that every cause is just and everyone's perception is different. It takes a lot for people these days, to just respect and listen to each other.
But coming to quick conclusions and labeling is always easier.

 

Season 3 episode 6 screenshots

 

I don't know if anyone else would agree with me, but the Quarren's bridge reminded me of the Klingon's bridge in the Star Trek films and tv shows, especially Search for Spock.

 

Glad to see that ugnaughts rebuilt that droid from Return of the Jedi. I already saw it in the first view XD
Long live to SW robots!

 

And that ship design... the whole opening sequence was awesome and even tho we read about pirates and smugglers, or saw them in video games using different factions ship, seeing the Imperial corvette manned by Mandalorians was so weird but cool at the same time. I liked the response of the quarren captain, as the ship is basically a symbol of a defeated regime, that still instills fear in people's minds.

And so it happens in this season, that there are great openings for the episodes and great endings, that are somwhat hindered by the slice of life/sidequest middle portions and 6 episodes in, I have no idea how all of the season pays off.
If it ends on cliffhanger in similar way the ESB or TLJ did, and even more so, TLJ, that will leave me thinking that the story of the season/movie has concluded, but there is more, I can't imagine where it goes... I will be happy!

But I am seriously afraid that at the end of Episode 8, there might be some fates left unresolved, some characters grasping the last straws and in jumps Moff Gideon in the rumored armor and goes: "Eat my buttload of TIE Interceptors and if you succeed by any chance, find me next Season in my Castle Gideon, where you will defeat my four generals and then reach me on the top." Noooooooo!

Am I also the only one, who misses the old vocalizations of Battle Droids from Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones before they shifted to the more whimsical and funny approach from Clone Wars and since that, it is the new standard?
While I completely buy it from the TV show for kids and teens, it made the droids a bit more menacing and serious, before they got sliced like butter with lightsabers.

 

That's CZ-1 and, in addition to the RotJ dead-droid-by-the-door scene, he was first seen aboard the jawa sandcrawler in ANH And... I think he also wanders around in the Mos Eisley background somewhere, although I can't remember where.

But yeah, the ugnaughts in Chap.22 - Guns For Hire were superb! Possibly, for me, the best thing about the entire episode.

 

I don't see why that is something that anyone should, or needs to, seriously fear.

Maybe I'm misreading this frequently raised concern, but is there an impression given, or an unwritten rule somewhere, that serial TV shows must give viewers the option to not watch the following series and provide them with the illusion that no continuing season exists nor needs to exist?

 

I don't know about others, but in my case, kind of. Unless you have a limited series with a beginning and end, I expect at least to follow some isolated arcs in seasons and with Mandalorian going for 8 episodes per season, doing the old washed out format of monster of the week and Hercules like adventure in the woods, I am a bit fatigued. More so with such long times between seasons.
More so with Andor doing it's own thing and being a blast, despite me myself not really looking forward to it at first and being dissapointed by Obi-Wan's production quality and bringing in the legacy actors and big TV stars...
The companies push the technology, presentation and bring insane things on TV screens like Rings Of Power, but the writing and treatment still reminds me of Xena in the 90s at times.
I want the story to go somewhere and so far, we are getting really small hints and allusions to bigger things except for the freaking Mythosaur and they probably except us to go, WOW! I can't wait till I see this resolved in next ten years! While I sleep on my subscription inbetween seasons.
That's my view. I felt coming out from cinema from TLJ that I got too much... Season 2 of Mandalorian was top notch, even if I thought that it was maybe too cameo heavy, but we've got a lot, Andor was surprise, but the rest of the Star Wars production, I don't feel that it lives up to the potential.
I am OK with this on classic TV, where you have pre set season of around 20 episodes per season, 50 minutes each and you have to fill that up, but with limited runs, with higher budgets and pretty much, not being limited by the TV standards, I naturally expect a bit more than just nice visuals and cool looking costumes (except for Obi-wan, that looked like cosplay at SW celebration and not a movie production quality).

 

How can people say the plot didn't move forward? Bo is now the leader of this new group of Mandos and going to take back Mandalore. Where they not paying attention?

 

Because the only move forward is actually the dark saber affair, and it could have been resolved since Episode 2 "The Mines of Mandalore", as Bo should have been proud to get legally back the saber from the cyborg in a fight.
Basically, all that happens prior to the Tarsk moon in this episode is quite unnecessary, and feels more "stars war" than "Star Wars", trying to save the day with a bunch of great names (Christopher Lloyd, Lizzo, Jake Black).
Filler episode for me and a waste of time.

 

If Bo had just claimed the darksaber in episode 2 then the meeting of the ways between her and the Children Of The Watch would not have had the significance it had. Or probably wouldn't have happened at all. Part of the mythology that's being explored here is that the one who rises to become ruler does not necessarily seek it.

 

There was only Din as proof and he was knocked unconscious.

 

Ironically, you ended your post by saying coming to quick conclusions is always easier. My point — using a young naive’ me as my example — is how easy it is to make those quick conclusions when you are comfortably ensconced in the dominant culture. It’s super-easy to opine that Lizzie’s acting was bad or producers are checking off a diversity box because it didn’t work for you. But guess what? It doesn’t mean it didn’t work well for other viewers. Call me crazy but it’s possible to see Lizzie as a sweetheart princess who Grogu was immediately attracted to.

I made it clear in my previous post that a show can be bad no matter who is involved. But when a character is not ‘believable enough’ for us, I simply asked that we look at ourselves first before jumping to snap judgements.

 

Indeed XD When I made the screenshot I put mandodroidanh but the fastest image that came to me more clearly was in Return. Didn't remeber where it was in ANH (let me check in, now I have more time).

Here it is in Sandcrawler. Quite dark. I can't find him in Mos Eisley.

Absolutely.

In my second viewing I think the chapter is not that bad. But definetly the 3 cameos/appearances and their scenes are quite weak and decrease the level of the chapter (but that's a personal opinion). Overall? Not so different from other chapters but the script is slightly poorer.

But I really loved the ugnaughts and droids scenes. So realistic. So very well done. Incredible practical effects. The ugnaughts are hilarious and I love their expressions and the dialogs with Din.

I always love droids in SW so watching a lot of them in that bar was hilarious too.
Also hilarious Din kicking those battle droids asses. That was fun. The kind of natural humor that I like.

Now I appreciate more the work of Bryce in here.


Someone can remember me where we have seen this little ones? Can't remember and are familiar.

 

Apparently, it's a different droid but same costume, obviously, named CZ-4



Edit: Sorry, this is actually CZ-3, portraied by none other than Anthony Daniels, himself

 

He is the pilot of the shuttle in the Disney Star Tour.
At 1:27.

 

lol
I laughed a lot with this XD

Absolutely.
I love this kind of routine
And I am beyond excited for SC, Ashoka and specially Acolyte.

I remember when I was a kid we only had 3 movies to rewatch over and over again.
In a few years will be difficult to try what to rewatch XD

Am currently with OT again(ROTJ, with my daughter) and I want to revisit ST too. Lots of scenes to love too.

 

I found the scenes to be shiningly stunning, a bright contrast to Mines of Mandalore.

I will have to watch that one again as the luncheon scene and the droid chase I would hope have some interesting things in the background.

The Quarren opening scene, Ugnaughts scene and the mando challenge scene were the best for me.

The cameos felt forced to me, especially Lloyd's. Black's character didn't fit his acting strength's in my opinion. And I personally don't like Lizzo, but didn't see anything wrong with her scenes as she was mostly just playing with Grogu, though the knighting scene might have more significance later.

Not many gray-hairs in the Axe Woves mando clan? Army? Fleet? Did anyone notice any clan symbols on their armor?

Bryce needs to ditch that Seth Gambel guy, he's just an emotionless robot.

Thank you, thank you I'll be here all week.