SPECULATION The Secret To Luke's Map?

Luke is powerful but knowing where Han is would have been difficult to see. Always the future is hard to see.

He probably felt Han's death through Leia's emotions though.

 

Who would have prevented that ?

 

Luke's 10X as powerful in TFA as was as a fledgling Jedi in TESB having the vision of Han being tortured by Vader in Cloud City.

So he had to of known in advance that Han would be killed by Kylo.

 

Luke put himself himself on that island for a reason

 

It would have been awesome to see his reaction, though ...

 

yes, but then the reveal at the end (that every KNEW was coming) wouldn't have been that strong....lol

 

I hate to blow this whole thing up but... why couldn't Luke have created the map and given the pieces to whoever he wanted BEFORE actually going to the destination? He could very well have discovered the location using old Jedi holocrons or other research, taken them with him, but left the map behind before he left. There are too many things that could go wrong to have allowed someone else to do all of the necessary leg work to get it where he wanted it to go AFTER he first arrived on the island. Besides, I suspect his x-wing is sitting in some not-before-seen cave on the island.

Luke going into exile and hiding makes perfect sense if his wife was killed and he BELIEVED his daughter dead as well.

My theories: I have said for a while that I think Rey is both Skywalker and Kenobi. I also think the only way Rey's abandonment on Jakku makes sense, if she is related to a Solowalker, is if Kylo Ren dumped her there when she was very young. He was evil enough to turn against his master and kill his older students, but not enough to kill the younger Rey, his cousin. So he dumps her on Jakku after wiping her mind, hoping that she would never resurface. Which is also why he is so upset to learn that BB8 and Finn are helped by a girl on Jakku...

 

It already want very strong...

 

I believe Luke is her biological father, but she was raised by others. I also believe her mother is of Kenobi blood. I also believe the map while leading to Luke, leads to the First Jedi Temple. While finding Luke is important, Snoke and Ren don't realize that's where it leads.

I don't buy the theory her mind was wiped, but I do buy the theory that she doesn't realize she's Luke's biological daughter. I think he gave her up as an infant because her mother had died and he didn't want her to be beholden to the Skywalker legacy. Remember, Leia wanted Ben trained by Luke, so I gather that Luke was balking at any of his family become Jedi. Perhaps because he saw the dangers.

I also think his look is one of sadness that he knows she must bear the weight of responsibility. A weight from which he wanted to shield her as long as possible.

 

As Han says in the movie, "The people who knew him the best think he went looking for the first Jedi temple." So I don't think the map we see is necessarily a map to Luke, just a map to that first Jedi temple. Those that knew Luke best just strongly believe he's going to be there.

 

Uh Luke was there...

 

Rey literally used that map, followed the exact map, and guess who was waiting for her on those steps .

 

1. LST downloaded the map onto his ancient data storage device from a ships navi-computer. Kylo refers to it as a navigational chart. My guess, those red lines aren't Luke's route but Hyperspace lanes and jump points to Ahch-To.
2. LST retired with the Church of the Force followers on Jakku. This may be coincidence, or Rey may have been born in that village. Maybe she was taken there since they are sympathetic to the Jedi. Good place to keep your child out of sight, with those aligned with you.
3. This part could be tricky. I'm sure they had something in mind before they decided on the ending. None of us will be able to predict how the first scenes of Luke and Rey happen. A lot will probably be explained in the crawl.
4. Because we need a Skywalker to help redeem Luke. I think Luke has a small redemption arc since he went away after failing to start the Jedi order and protect his students. He also failed (as did Han and Leia) to keep Ben Solo from turning.
5. Yes. No way they go this route because JJ had too much respect for the original movies. It would be out of character for Obi-Wan. The stuff that happened in the cartoons that COULD indicate Old Ben may have had relationships will not be considered by KK, JJ and Rian Johnson. Just my guess.
6. I'm guessing he had friends like LST and maybe even a wife. Luke was a larger than life figure after ROTJ, he would have had many allies.....and many advaseries.
7. Explained in #1. LST was an explorer of the Galaxy. I believe he may have even helped find the Temple in the first place.
8. They intercepted a transmission from LST to the Resistence, which is why they both got to LST at essentially the same time.

These are my best guesses based on the movie and Visual Dictionary. Not sure if the Novel provides more info.

 

i believe this, firmly.

there is a HUGE assumption out there that Ben Solo killed Luke's Jedi students. first, we don't know for a fact that he was the one who "destroyed it all". Second, we don't know that the destruction of the school meant anybody actually died. logical assumptions, perhaps, but still total speculation.

we don't know if Rey's vision is past or future, but one way to interpret it is that Kylo Ren "saves" her from that Constable Zuvio-looking cat, and the fact that the scene immediately following shows her abandonment on Jakku may be sequentially deliberate.

all speculation, but i have a feeling Ben Solo preserved Rey for some reason. the two are obviously yin and yan in this world.

as to the OP: i believed that the map was to the Jedi temple and not specifically to find Luke. it's just where everyone assumes he went (and they happen to be right).

 

I really like the Kenobi Skywalker combination. I think both her parents are force sensitive, which makes her so crazy strong with no training, and as far as I know we have not seen before in the movies.

Darth Vader. Mom not force sensitive
Luke and Leah. Mom not force sensitive
Ben Solo. Dad not force sensitive.
Rey. Both force sensitive. Kenobi/Skywalker, ?/Skywalker, ?/Kenobi, ?/?.......

 

Good point. But hahahahah you don't know where Luke was looking. No one does.

 

What!? (Be cautious this gentleman possibly heard it)

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Maybe he was aroused. (it could be the case that he thought that he would never ever see his old flashlight again)

Who knows, maybe something wicked was going on in ESB. (could this be the big reveal in VIII or IX?)

 

THIS THEORY WOULD BE AMAZING!!