SPOILER Virtually the whole movie is spoiled at this point?

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Given the fact some of these rumours and plot points you mentioned keep coming back I believe they will be in the final film. If you add up what we already 'know' and trie to string it all together in a coherent plot you end up with a narrative that is already quite 'complicated' and can end up with (too) many exposition scenes.

Star Wars should be a simple fairy tale with stereotypical characters and situations. I fear we are very close to pretty much knowing the whole basic plot months in advance.

 

This is all fun. I bet a few "leaks" gave us some close ideas, but I bet a lot of the concept art was requested for deception. It's not like we don't know that everyone on the Internet has taken everything way too far. Just trying to cheer you up. I think some may be spoiled, but we'll still be surprised throughout. Keep your chin up!

 

If spoilers are true. Maybe all spoilers, rumors are false.

 

Whether the spoilers are accurate they probably change them to turn the tables I know the movie has been shot with the actors moving on to other projects, but who's to say JJ doesn't have their numbers to call on a moments notice to fix a moment in the movie, the pinewoods studios is always open IMM.

 

I feel like we do know a lot, but at the same time I'm sure there will be at least a few surprises along the way. Some of the things we think we know will probably make the film. Yet, I can't help but think that some of the evidence-based speculation, may be taken out of context or misinterpreted.

 

There are certainly lots of details we know nothing about, particularly the visual elements of which we know next to nothing save for scant teaser trailer clips and concept art that may not be in the film. We don't even have the skeleton of the story in place and the assemblage of rumours is so loose with most fragments floating in isolation that it could be rebuilt in many different combinations.

 

It's one of the reasons why I was disappointed by Prometheus when it came out. I had ideas how the story should go and even how the music should sound.

Later when I watched it again, it became one of my favorite sci-fi movies of all time.

The problem was my mind went too far in a few places...

 

Yes Promethus was a good movie, I did not need a second viewing to know it, I hope a second one comes soon, the problem with stories is storing them online they can be easily hacked, I do not see the sense or gain by revealing a possible idea of a plot, sure temporary recognition is partially gained, a little jail time back out again to do it again.

 

But see, this is a big problem right here. You're presenting all of these rumors as fact; none of this has been confirmed.

Anyhow, I do agree with the point you and Mark Hamill are making. Tempering our expectations would be wise. I even had a moment; like a lot of folks at the Cantina it seems; after reading yesterday's "news" that I thought that I had perhaps already heard and seen too much. "I'm going to SW spoiler hell, where all the bad, impatient little fanboys go." But we're all here for a reason; we love the Wars and have to know. There's nothing wrong with being a mega fan, obviously. I just wouldn't advise rushing to judge story ideas that have yet to be officially confirmed or seen in context.

Exactly. Great post.

 

Personally feel like we know little to nothing.

Everything you can factually get from the teaser such as Rey has a speeder, there's a new droid called BB-8 etc. That basic stuff we actually know.
We learned a few names from the trading cards and we heard 15 words of dialogue in teaser as well.

Other than that everything is pure rumor. Sure it seems as if some of the things that appeared in the leaked concept art keep coming up from various sites sources as "in the film" and if they are that's great we have some knowledge of what things might look like.
We still know next to nothing of the plot however. We've seen a few things from MSW now where they seem to be confident in some events taking place in the film but it's pretty obviously details are missing. Things in the descriptions of what happens seem very blotchy and pieced together or something is happening and we are all asking ourselves "why would that happen"? We our asking ourselves questions like that because we still don't know squat about what TFA is about. The most concrete event we might see take place is Poe/Finn end up in a cell together and try to escape. That isn't much to me personally but it's the rumor that keeps coming up over and over again. Also, think of how many actors we know are in the film and how many of them we don't even know the name of the character they are playing. It's pretty staggering when you really sit back and think about what we think we know and what we definitely don't.

Come six months from now we may have more information that makes sense but I don't see this movie being totally spoiled with someone like JJ Abrams behind it. I'm sure he has some sort of ace in the hole that will bite us in the ass when we see the actual movie. Even if someone gets a hold of the script I wouldn't feel totally confident assuming what is written on the pages is exactly what we will see. They knew going into this SW fans are of a different breed and this movie will be HUGELY anticipated and people would be headhunting and foaming at the mouth to get their hands on info about the plot/characters. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some type of scenario where there are multiple versions of the script and only the actors were told which script to follow. Possibly even following different scripts on different days with only JJ knowing which piece of which version ended up being the actual story. It is definitely possible.

 

I'm feelin good about more surprises and even fake information getting passed. here in the Cantina people want more and more information about the movie and figure out as much detail about SW7 as they can before it comes out. I try to avoid the spoilers but sometimes i can't help myself. I say no way we have it all figured out.

 

I can't speak to whether we have it all figured out, but I can say for sure that I don't have it all figured out.

The teaser, some concept art, and a few confirmed facts are all that have shaped my ideas of the film so far. The rest of it to me, is mostly fun, but unconfirmed plot rumors. I would have to see a whole lot more confirmed info from the filmmakers themselves in order to feel like I have the plot of this film figured out.

It's a really big puzzle with far too many missing pieces at this point.

 

I think it's safe to say we have the general outline of what happens in the movie. The key thing for me personally, is that the scenes that fit these pieces together aren't spoiled/revealed.
That said, at this point I'm restricting any further spoilage to official/unofficial artwork and set photos, and trailers. I know what I need to know to keep me going.

 

I don't think we have clear picture of the film at all. There is a lot simple statements being thrown around as leaks, but we are far from connecting them all in a way that makes sense. The beginning of the film is getting much more clear, and we have maybe some of the climax, but there is a huge lack of info about ACT II and the transitions between everything. There is much more to go!

 

I'm not too worried about not being surprised. As long there's a good story, good direction, no sh*t/poodoo jokes, and the actors don't phone in their performances, it'll be great.

 

What's really interesting to me is that specifically the Luke Skywalker character is ridiculously lacking in info about what he is doing in TFA. Other than the Spoilerman stuff it seems no one with supposed legit info has anything on Luke. I'm interested to see what happens with that. If more info continues to come out with no mention of Luke I'm going to assume we are in for something intense and unexpected.

 

"Wake up."

You are on one of the leading SW fan messageboards, which belongs to one of the leading SW news sites, in a thread SPOILER tagged.

The average person knows little to nothing about TFA, outside of the teaser trailer imagery. If anything is "Spoiled" you only have yourselves to blame. Very rarely does a major media outlet, say a Yahoo! frontpage, spoil plot details of a large film like TFA. The chances of you running into such spoilers in "Normal" land are few and far between.

If you REALLY, SERIOUSLY, HONESTLY want to remain 100% SPOILER-FREE, here's some advice:

Avoid any and all SW fan sites, film blogs, Reddit, and 4chan... because sometimes they inadvertently spoil things under the ASSUMPTION that any visitor to their site/channel is in this for the SPOILERS. (Of course, trolls do it out of spite as well.)

TL;DR You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You cannot know everything there is no know about the production, and remain entirely unspoiled one way or another. So do what you can do to avoid it if it bugs you... but don't expect anyone to feel bad or sorry for you knowing things in advance, while you continue doggy-paddling in spoiler-laden waters.

P.S. We don't know it all anyway. And even if we did... knowing AIN'T EVEN CLOSE TO HALF THE BATTLE (SORRY, JOES!) BECAUSE EXECUTION IS EVERYTHING. HOW A SCENE IS SHOT, CUT, AND PRESENTED IS STILL A MYSTERY UNTIL OPENING NIGHT, FOR ALMOST EVERYONE.

P.P.S. I hope you stay though... I love you all... just trying to be realistic is all.

P.P.P.S. @Fartkraum Is the wedding still on?

 

I agree with that. For all we KNOW…Luke became a decent Jedi but not all powerful. I mean, Plo Koon was tough to deal with as a Jedi Master but he wasn’t the greatest of all time. Then again Luke, being that he had plenty of study time in what might have been a Cold War peace era…could be super powerful…none of that is something we know for sure.


I don’t think we know everything, but I think we know enough to piece things together. Once we get a movie synopsis it helps quite a bit. In fact, that’s all I really want is another trailer (not teaser) and a synopsis and I would be good to go for the rest of the year. I will still constantly speculate and read though haha