What If the Force Awakens sucks?

I agree with all of which you stated. I also think good writing and acting could help.

 

1-lightsaber crash land on jakku, but does have a scratch on it
2-leia sends her best pilot after a lightsaber that holds no real meaning other than it belonged to her father. lightsaber were weapons, they were not magical. everyone chasing or being chased because of an old lightsaber is just a stupid idea
3- things magically appearing out of nowhere, first finn finds a jacket, then the falcon is there and just happens to have the ramp down, and then han and chewie just show up on some big freighter.
4-luke only in one scene at the end of the movie. why did mark hamill train, get in shape and spend months at pinewood for a brief cameo?

none of this makes sense plot wise. with all the creative minds they working on this movie and if this is the best they could come up with. it just doesn't sound like a good plot for any movie not just a star wars movie.

this lightsaber did not fall though a planet's atmosphere and crash land

 

Again, I'm not being a pain, I am just not seeing it completely. You have some valid points and I tried to argue them but some I cannot.

 

I think there is a lot that is still not being talked about. There is a lot of character info but not a lot of plot and larger story info. Just that there are competing super weapons. There is almost nothing about the fact that at Celebration people talked about 3 political factions; 1st Order, Resistance & Republic. They seem to be focus a lot on the personal story but not the big picture.

 

I am hoping it is TPM all over again.

I am hoping that it's half as great as TPM in which case it'll be at least good to very good.

 

You prefer it to be a space comedy like Futurama?

 

If its half as great as Futurama that would already make it twice as good as TPM.

 

After I read it all together like that, I couldn't help but think - whats the point of the story? Is this really worthy of being a sequel to some of the most revered films ever? There are so many holes, inconsistencies, and coincidences in that summary.
Granted dialog and context are missing but it just doesn't sound like a great continuation of star wars to me.

I do believe we will see most of what was described in the movie. I just hope to god that sysopsis is incomplete and there will be purpose to the story and smarter writing in the final product.

 

2-We don't know the saber holds no meaning. It is only a stupid idea if there is no reason people want it. I'll bet the film makers realize this.
3-Finn finds a jacket...is that really a deal breaker? I'm sure it will all make sense when we actually see what happens. The falcon just happening to be there with the ramp down: maybe there is a reason it is there that we don't know yet. We also don't know that Han + Carpet showing up is a coincidence.

EDIT: someone beat me to it. Move along.

 

what meaning could an old lightsaber have? it is just a weapon, it not some magical talisman and . you might as well have them all on a hunt for han's blaster?

the jacket isn't a deal breaker it is just an example of to many things just suddenly appearing just when the hero needs it. finn needs to hide the fact he is a stormtrooper, so there just happening to be a jacket that fits him in the crashed tie fighter. what good reason would the falcon have to be in the middle of a junk yard with it's ramp down ready for take off? to many coincidences make for a horrible storyline.

to be perfectly honest i could get behind the most of the other stuff, but the lightsaber thing is just not good story telling, i just can't see how it turns into a good idea.

lightsabers are not indestructible. this lightsaber did not go through a planet's atmosphere and crash land

 

I'll say this: obviously I want this film to be as good as ESB (as if that were possible), but if it turns out to be a stinker, I say that collectively all SW fans need to rename JJ Abrams to Jar Jar Abrams. That would be a fitting penalty for screwing up Star Wars more than GL did.

 

Again, I hate the idea of the floating saber but the condition the saber is in could be explained away as simply restoring it to it's former condition.

 

so it somehow fells from space, crashes on the planet and the people who find it are able to restore it to not just working order, but but what looks like brand new? lightsaber aren't indestructible, they can't survive atmospheric reentry, they can't survive a crash into a planet.

 

Someone just started a new thread suggesting the saber is a fake by kylo. I think that would make more sense.

 

The sabre might not fall from space.

 

From where I stand, from a lot of other posts and forums I have read it would seem impossible for this film to fail! People have been building this up for months now. People have been putting Abrams on some pedestal and claiming how this man can do no wrong. For most it seems that all this movie has to do is be better than the PT(whatever they mean by "better" actually means)

But as always the hype is strong right now and will ride thru to the opening of the film and shortly after. This new film will usher in a new generation of fans. That is an automatic given. I can already see the "best SW film ever" comments as soon as it is released. But like the hype, that will die off soon after. Then there will be the fans that say "well the OT is still better, I just got caught on the hype train" But new fans will still enjoy it and it will be just like how the OT was for their new fans and the PT was for their new fans.

I am sure I myself will enjoy it. I enjoy all the SW films. I don't really have a particular order that I enjoy them in. I personally feel that if someone a numerical list of what movies they like is kind of dumb. To me if I enjoy something I enjoy it. If not so be it. I am not looking for this film to be better than this trilogy or live up to that trilogy. All this ****waving about which trilogy is better is dumb.

I am just happy that I am going to get a new SW film. I do not really like they way JJ, KK and co. have been promoting this film with all the practical effects BS. Every time there is an interview with a star of the film or a maker of the film the issue with practical effects has to be mentioned. It is tiring and I can't wait for December to get here already.

 

Yeah me too. I was a kid when the OT came out and loved them. I was able to love the PT as well even being a little more older and wiser. And yes, the practical effects thing really spiraled out of control.

 

As a preface to my comments, please note that I'm not making any argument or expressing my opinion (I have one) about whether the OT or PT was better, as that has been argued over and over. Rather, I am only trying to rationalize why there is so much emphasis on practical effects being used in the newest movie.

It may seem redundant, but the constant reminders about practical effects is deliberate, intentional, and probably viewed by the powers that be ("TPTB") as necessary. Obviously, they want to reassure the original OT "purists" that what is coming will be closer to the OT than the PT. And while we may not agree with it, the perception from a large segment of the general audience may very well be one of skepticism, too. Whether accurate or not, a great deal of the OT vs. PT rhetoric has portrayed the PT as something less than the OT. General audiences may not fully understand or appreciate that debate, but they are probably at least loosely aware of its existence. The most casual moviegoers (who make up the largest part of the general audience) may be of the mindset: "I heard that those more recent Star Wars movies weren't as good as the old ones. I'm sure these new movies won't be as good either." And maybe they decide to just skip it. After all, what sequels are ever as good as the originals (in their minds)?

In an abundance of caution, TPTB try to appeal to the broadest spectrum as possible. They know we diehards are going to watch no matter what, so they are probably not concerned if we start to get a little annoyed with hearing about the practical effects over and over again... So, there could very well be a reasoned judgment behind the focus on practical effects, even though it may annoy some of us loyalists.