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SPECULATION What must The Rise of Skywalker do for you? [POLL AND DISCUSSION]

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Grand Admiral Kraum, May 20, 2019.

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What do you want to see in The Rise of Skywalker?

  1. More Kylo

  2. More Rey

  3. Creative lore expansion (controversial ideas such as force projection. new dark side powers etc)

  4. Callbacks to the sequel trilogy (Luke Skywalker, Leia, Han and so on)

  5. Callbacks to the prequel trilogy

  6. Anakin/Darth Vader

  7. The Sith/The Emperor

  8. Yoda/Obi Wan

  9. Something new

  10. More politics

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  1. srg

    srg Force Attuned

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    My poll picks:
    - More Kylo (not saying we're not getting enough, but well, since he's my favourite character currently, of course I'm all for more ;))
    - Creative lore expansion
    - Something new
    - Anakin/Darth Vader (well - not so much Vader, but I think Anakin deserves to show up as a Force ghost)

    New stuff and creativity are definitely things I want the most. Callbacks can be nice, but in my experience they've proven to be more jarring than charming or worthwhile. I'd be happy to get some cool flashbacks, though, so we could get a glimpse of Luke in his prime without compromising his arc in TLJ.
     
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  2. GotTheSilver

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    I think the whole premise of the thread title is an indication of what is wrong in the fandom today. "What MUST The Rise of Skywalker do for you?" This has been a driving problem over the last few years - people saying that a movie must do this or that to satisfy them. Then, when the writers/directors come up with something else (even if it is great) these people are upset that they did not get to see their head canon on screen.

    For me, I just want an entertaining and compelling story, well executed on screen. I leave it up to JJ and Company to figure out what that story is.
     
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  3. Luke's beard

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    the Knights of ren ...

    [​IMG]
     
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  4. NinjaRen

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    A lot of *badass* Knights Of Ren action.

    [​IMG]

    They should be savage and fearsome!
     
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  5. Lord of the Rens

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    This isn't the Snoke should have been Plagueis thread. ;)




    :p
     
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  6. Jedi MD

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    In short... just entertain me
     
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    I want it to give the ST a reason to sit next to the 1-6 story. So far I like TFA and TLJ as standalone movies, but not as Saga movies (Ironically I like the PT as Saga movies, but not standalone movies). I still watch the ending of ROTJ on Endor and say to myself, “This is an almost perfect ending, why do I need to see Episode 7,8,9?”

    Maybe the return of Palpatine in whatever form will tie the 9 movies together? Maybe the name ‘Skywalker’ will give the Jedi Order and Saga a whole new context? Maybe the Force is finally balanced through Rey and Finn? Maybe Luke is in that final shot cause it’s something he did to save the galaxy?

    It’s all about the macro story for me. I know I’ll like the movie in its own context (I’ve never hated a SW movie), but will I like it as Part 9 of the Saga? That’s what I’m looking for.
     
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    Just hoping for a satisfying ending, which I am sure we will get.

    Though I wouldn't hate a Poe vs Kylo dogfight...
     
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    Yeah ;);) ..
     
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  10. Grand Admiral Kraum

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    All of the options I have listed are very vague. The film will inevitably give us more or less Kylo than the previous film, give us more or less original/prequel trilogy callbacks and it will inevitably use The Emperor in some way. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking what some fans want to see.
     
    #30 Grand Admiral Kraum, May 22, 2019
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    How about for starters TFA was a cut and paste of ANH?
     
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    I agree with your premise, but this is the result of endless sequels from a popular franchise. There is essentially nothing they can do after 10 (Saga/Standalone) movies that is going to knock our socks off, because there is only so much original story to tell. So what happens is that people sort of want this and that, as that is the only thing that will really please them at this point, since there won't be anything new and original. The same thing happens with TV shows as they go on too long for Seasons 7,8,9 and they just keep repeating themes with different characters in different situations, as that is essentially what the ST is. It's a replay of the OT with new characters set in roughly the same plotline, just subverting expectations to make it feel original.

    The Studios and the fans are both to blame, because we keep asking for it and they keep delivering. Anyone here who wants something totally new, than I would ask why you are looking for it in a 40 year old franchise? But the studios are afraid to develop something new because it is a risk and something old/repackaged is more apt to make money (Hence TFA is a retread of ANH and is the #1 Domestic Movie of all-time).

    That is why I don't argue the small stuff anymore with the SW franchise because there is nothing new they can really give us that we haven't seen. My original post was the big picture and whether the macro story of 7-9 fits with 1-6, as that is all I care about at this point. There's going to lightsabers, space battles, dark side, etc in every SW movie at this point.
     
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  13. Bluemilk

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    In your opinion. But even if it was true. The trilogy still isn't a bust. Try again.
     
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    Nothing it can really do because this "trilogy" is so disjointed and ineptly done with no plan other than to riff off of the first six movies but not make any sense or have any logic to it.

    On a surface level the best that can be done is to do some tie-ins into TROS with Star Wars' overall Anakin story of the prophecy of the Chosen One and balance of the Force. Have Anakin return to end Darth Sidious (in whatever form he will be in) once and for all.

    I'd propose a final duel of the fates between Anakin and Sidious in the Netherworld of the Force while Rey and Kylo Ren look on or maybe even have their own parallel duel. Those two nothing characters are just weak recreations of Anakin, Luke and Vader anyway.

    The proper thing to do would have been to actually make sequels and add to the story but they had no interest in that so all they can do now is what they have done and make a weak replay of events that were already done far better than they have the ability to do.
     
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    I want to be entertained, and I hope that the conclusion is a satisfying ending to the trilogy. I want to look back at the sequel trilogy and like it as much as much as i loved TFA and TLJ. And hopefully they will all fit together nicely in retrospect.

    And I want to see Rey, Finn and Kylo Ren's character arcs to the end. New John Williams music is also a big reason to see it, but it's very sad that it will be his last Star Wars movie.
     
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    Try again? Please tell me how it's not a cut & paste.
     
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    I want the movie to justify the sequel trilogy's existence. I want an ending that ends things differently than Return of the Jedi.

    I also want good solid fantasy adventure movie. And so far it looks like that's what I'm getting.

    TFA was a little too much like A New Hope. TLJ was ok but parts of it felt more Star Trek than Star Wars. Just give me a solid space adventure that feels like Star Wars.
     
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    Star Trek? How so?
     
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    It MUST entertain me. It must evoke emotions of joy, delight, sadness, laughter, surprise, and wonderment. That's it.

    Even if you didn't love or agree with the stories of TFA or TLJ, you should have felt those emotions from watching those films.
     
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    Slow moving ships?
     
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