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What's the point of this trilogy?

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by DailyPlunge, Mar 3, 2018.

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What's the point of this trilogy?

  1. A young woman's path to becoming a Jedi

    19 vote(s)
    11.7%
  2. The redemption of Ben Solo

    23 vote(s)
    14.2%
  3. The birth of the new Jedi Order

    13 vote(s)
    8.0%
  4. We'll cross that bridge when we get there!

    62 vote(s)
    38.3%
  5. Other

    45 vote(s)
    27.8%
  1. Martoto

    Martoto Rebel Official

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    No just until the end of the Skywalker saga.

    So this is about Ben/Kylo being rewarded? And not about him facing the consequences and having people tell him what they think of his deeds?

    Is it a worse message or a better message than Rey dying, after having rejected her supposed destiny to inherit her grandfather's evil legacy and empire?

    Ben stood with Rey until he was cast down by Palpatine. He would surely have died alongside her if they had remained together throughout. But he was given a chance to give his life for hers after she defeated Sidious with all the Jedi behind her. So I don't agree that it was the case he had to die because he did good at the end. Or in spite of it. He was given the chance to live by Rey after Leia intervened in their duel. It would not have been totally outrageous if Kylo/Ben just died then and there due to Rey not having the knowledge or the power to save him. There might have been a chance for remorse before dying but that's it. That's an alternate that I can visualise which makes more sense than just having Ben survive the ending to show that being a cowardly murderer in the pursuit of power doesn't need to cost your life, if you choose turn back from that.

    I'm going to say, categorically, that the the chance of reward at the end if you turn back because you failed to achieve ultimate power by causing or allowing the deaths of billions of innocent people is not a good message for kids.
     
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    eeprom Prince of Bebers

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    Doing good IS the reward. It isn’t about a system of karmic payback - you do a certain amount of good deeds and you earn spirit points you can cache in later.

    The character went from immensely selfish, only interested in his own needs and wants, to being completely willing to give his own life for another - quintessential selflessness. Greed versus charity. Selfish versus selfless. Dark versus light. The dark side takes while the light side gives. That's the duality. That's the ethic.
     
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    "It is a far, far better thing I do now than I have ever done. It is a far, far better rest I go to than I have ever known"

    The sequel trilogy also shares with Two Cities an affinity with the idea that the sins of the father (Palpatine and Vader) are visited on his children.
     
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    Are you a Rey fan? Genuinely curious.
     
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    "Are you now, or have you ever been...." :eek:

    I think we've already established that favouritism for anyone is not something I indulge in.
     
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    It still amazes me how they brought him back...'somehow Palpatine has returned'...ouch. Poor Oscar, having to say that. I salute TROS's cast for keeping a straight face with some of the awful dialogue...and I thought the PT's script was awful!
     
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