1. Due to the increased amount of spam bots on the forum, we are strengthening our defenses. You may experience a CAPTCHA challenge from time to time.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

SPECULATION When is the trigger for a fourth trilogy announcement?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by MarsPhoenix, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. Julius Fett

    Julius Fett Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2016
    Posts:
    1,234
    Likes Received:
    2,688
    Trophy Points:
    11,167
    Credits:
    4,942
    Ratings:
    +4,168 / 21 / -4
    Yeah, I just heard about this and had a bit of an eye-roll as to how some media outlets are running with it being X, XI, and XII (which I kind of hope we never get).

    I’ve said before that I feel like TLJ will be contending with everyone’s favourite SW films, and I think this only goes to further prove that, regardless of whether that is the case, Rian Johnson has done a superb job (at least) with TLJ, which is only emphasised further yet by how ruthless Lucasfilm have been with directors so far this year.

    Oh, and interesting tidbit: if we’re only counting live-action films and assume that Rian could direct all three, we could see him come level with the number of films that George Lucas has directed (4) when all is said and done.

    Old Republic? Knights of Ren/Kylo’s Fall? The Porg Wars? Oh whatever could it be...
     
    • Like Like x 2
  2. Deac421

    Deac421 Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2015
    Posts:
    352
    Likes Received:
    601
    Trophy Points:
    6,257
    Credits:
    1,317
    Ratings:
    +882 / 8 / -3
    My gut says let’s keep the movie train rolling and announce and release as soon as possible to stay on the saga movie every two years pattern. But I do think there should be a bit of a pause at least in terms of the trilogies.

    Part of what makes the current slate of movies so exciting is that we’ve had to wait so long for new movies that there was a lot of pent up excitement.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. MarsPhoenix

    MarsPhoenix Sith Psychiatrist

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2014
    Posts:
    2,718
    Likes Received:
    3,993
    Trophy Points:
    15,547
    Credits:
    6,871
    Ratings:
    +8,275 / 90 / -75
    Follow me...

    I sort of knew (I have a weird sixth sense) they would announce the Fourth Trilogy this year. It is part of the marketing plan for The Last Jedi... I am pretty sure it was already planned and decided and offered to Rian Johnson. Even before Colin Trololo was removed from IX.

    That is why RJ is not helming 9.
    He was offered way bigger.

    NOW...

    They say... A fourth trilogy of films that has nothing to do with the existing characters... in another galaxy.... yeah... well... slow down.

    Even if the 4th trilogy would be the continuation of what happens in Episode 7-8 and 9, they would keep that under silence for at least AFTER the release of Episode 9.

    My point is: it can go any direction from there... Continue the stories of Rey, Finn and Poe, maybe Kylo, or go in a total new direction.

    Here are the possibilities (Some are absurd, but let's put them on the table anyway :) ):

    - The Continuation of the existing SAGA (Episode X, XI and XII) Following the events of Episode 9... maybe a time jump.
    - A Spinoff trilogy that has NOTHING to do with the events in the existing SAGA but taking place at the same time, or close.
    - A jump in the past: Knight of the Old Republic or maybe even something even more ancient.
    - A Prequel trilogy of the events between ROTJ and TFA
    - A REMAKE of the Prequel trilogy. (By 2021, it'll be 22 years since Episode I was released)
    - Porg Adventures: Caravan of Courage

    Mark my words on this beautiful day of November 10th 2017:

    - Elements that'll link the current trilogy to this new trilogy will be placed in Episode 8 and 9 narrative (Probably, RJ got this future trilogy inspired from elements and-or characters from TLJ)... Probably pitched the idea and sold it.

    But, bottomline... THESE ARE EXCELLENT NEWS!!

    - Proves how much Disney and Lucasfilm are confident TLJ will deliver.
    - Star Wars will last forever!!!
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 10, 2017, Original Post Date: Nov 10, 2017 ---
    Oh and how will we call this new trilogy?

    The Sequel Sequel Trilogy?
    The Prequel Sequel Trilogy?
    The Sequel Prequel Trilogy?
    The Prequel Prequel Trilogy?

    LOL
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  4. Pomojema

    Pomojema Ayatollah Of Rock-&-Rolla
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2014
    Posts:
    10,206
    Likes Received:
    42,767
    Trophy Points:
    171,329
    Credits:
    44,779
    Ratings:
    +53,063 / 127 / -63
    ...While J. J. Abrams will have directed as many films that George Lucas didn't direct between the PT and OT. Funny how things work out.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Wise Wise x 1
  5. NotQyteNeo

    NotQyteNeo Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2016
    Posts:
    508
    Likes Received:
    4,639
    Trophy Points:
    12,992
    Credits:
    4,580
    Ratings:
    +5,041 / 14 / -2
    1. I am assuming you are referring to a "Skywalkers/Solos/Jedi/Sith(dark side) continuation(not the recently announced RJ trilogy). Answer: Yes
    2. Yes, I think they will do other stuff for the next 10-20 years. Then they will continue the main saga story-line. I think it will be about Finn, Rey, Kylo etc, but won't necessarily be about the next generation. Or, at least, I think that would be too expected/cliche.
    3. No chance. They will focus on anthology films and the RJ trilogy for awhile.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,371
    Likes Received:
    15,477
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,998
    Ratings:
    +20,620 / 309 / -97
    It would kind of make sense to stay in the same time line, but in a different place. This would allow Lucasfilm to expand the story. If it doesn't work, no harm done. If it does work then these new stories can interact with the characters created in the Skywalker saga.

    With that said there have been a few hints about the Unknown Regions in the Aftermath books and in Thrawn. Thrawn is worried about the Chiss and a threat in the Unknown Regions. Imagine a scenario where former Jedi have fled to the Unknown Regions. This also ties to the new park which is being called Galaxy's Edge.

    Lucasfilm has milked the Empire era to death. They're recycled it with the First Order. Creating a new threat in a brand new story makes sense for the eventual X, XI, XII.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
    • Wise Wise x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  7. Darth Basin The Greatest

    Darth Basin The Greatest Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2016
    Posts:
    2,001
    Likes Received:
    2,603
    Trophy Points:
    8,842
    Credits:
    4,014
    Ratings:
    +4,431 / 293 / -150
    You had me until the word REMAKE.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  8. Pomojema

    Pomojema Ayatollah Of Rock-&-Rolla
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2014
    Posts:
    10,206
    Likes Received:
    42,767
    Trophy Points:
    171,329
    Credits:
    44,779
    Ratings:
    +53,063 / 127 / -63


    We'll see remasters of the unaltered OT (not happening) before we see complete remakes of existing Star Wars movies. (And no, The Force Awakens doesn't count.) By all means, doing remakes would be a waste of Lucasfilm's resources, and people are pissy enough over the Special Editions as it is - this would be a dozen times worse.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
    • Wise Wise x 1
  9. Bendak Starkiller

    Bendak Starkiller Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Posts:
    917
    Likes Received:
    5,240
    Trophy Points:
    14,242
    Credits:
    4,121
    Ratings:
    +5,989 / 14 / -2
    A remake for the prequels is unnecessary, imo. Besides Disney considers the PT canon, and remaking them would cause all kinds of problems to the continuity.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  10. Rayjefury

    Rayjefury Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2016
    Posts:
    2,206
    Likes Received:
    3,409
    Trophy Points:
    12,967
    Credits:
    4,671
    Ratings:
    +5,225 / 106 / -18
    If Rian Johnson did an "Eternal Empire" type story that happens at relatively the same time as the Episodic movies (anywhere between Episode 4-8) but in another region that could merge at a later point, that might be epic.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  11. Boss Vos

    Boss Vos Rebel Official

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Posts:
    856
    Likes Received:
    1,100
    Trophy Points:
    7,367
    Credits:
    2,072
    Ratings:
    +1,734 / 123 / -46
    I can't understand why so many people are hoping for Rian Johnson's trilogy to take place between Episode 6 and 7. It doesn't make any sense at all.

    The trilogy is not going to be about the Skywalkers. Use your imagination, don't let the fear of creativity overtake your souls.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  12. Rayjefury

    Rayjefury Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2016
    Posts:
    2,206
    Likes Received:
    3,409
    Trophy Points:
    12,967
    Credits:
    4,671
    Ratings:
    +5,225 / 106 / -18
    I think they'd want that time frame so there could be some tie-ins and touch points to the existing Star Wars movies without boxing in the new characters. But when you say, use your imagination, are we talking about beings and aliens with ships, technology, and abilities we haven't seen before? Would there need to be a Force element in this new trilogy or should they avoid that altogether? Serious question. I was thinking about it, and my first thought was the Eternal Empire but they still had Force Usage involved, still it wasn't the typical Sith vs Jedi. The Eternal Empire fought the Sith Empire and the Republic.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  13. Protocol Droid

    Protocol Droid Rebel General

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2014
    Posts:
    506
    Likes Received:
    841
    Trophy Points:
    4,517
    Credits:
    2,104
    Ratings:
    +1,458 / 25 / -17
    If we take the press release literally, RJ's trilogy will likely be set in the unknown regions, though the time period is unclear. I agree with those who speculate that we'll see hints of the new trilogy set-up in TLJ and Ep IX. My take is that the FO encountered Snoke in the unknown region, and RJ will map out that terrain in his new trilogy, a terrain where the dark side is strong.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. Boss Vos

    Boss Vos Rebel Official

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Posts:
    856
    Likes Received:
    1,100
    Trophy Points:
    7,367
    Credits:
    2,072
    Ratings:
    +1,734 / 123 / -46
    Snoke is ancient. If they really want to make a spin-off trilogy about Snoke, it doesn't make sense to start in this era. It would rather be set many years prior to the prequels, during his origins.

    While I certainly get the appeal among some to see the origins of the FO, I don't think you can milk a whole three movies out of that. It wouldn't work. If anything, a standalone anthology film about the FO would work in this case. Additionally, it seems the origins of the FO is going to be covered in the Battlefront II campaign anyway.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  15. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,371
    Likes Received:
    15,477
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,998
    Ratings:
    +20,620 / 309 / -97
    This is where I'm leaning as well. I guess we'll have a better idea after The Last Jedi. I suspect some lore changes are coming.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  16. bigbayblue

    bigbayblue Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2014
    Posts:
    699
    Likes Received:
    1,258
    Trophy Points:
    7,692
    Credits:
    2,299
    Ratings:
    +2,191 / 37 / -19
    Not only a great idea - one that makes sense from a business perspective. If it bombs, it doesn't even rule out other stories from the Unknown Regions because there's no limit to how vast those areas are. And if it succeeded, imagine the hype when they merged the two story lines.

    The time between 6 and 7 seems like fertile ground for a new cartoon series. It could utilize all of the established OT characters, surviving Rebels characters, and introduce new ones. A format similar to the Clone Wars, where each story arc followed different characters, could work really well - and they wouldn't have to worry about recasting the franchises most celebrated roles like they would with anything live action set during that period.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  17. Rayjefury

    Rayjefury Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2016
    Posts:
    2,206
    Likes Received:
    3,409
    Trophy Points:
    12,967
    Credits:
    4,671
    Ratings:
    +5,225 / 106 / -18
    The origins of the FO are known (at least at a high level) it's the remnant of the Empire no? The origin of Snoke though I agree is an entirely different story. Where did he come from, how did he learn the use of the Force, who trained him, what was his relationship if any to Palpatine? I'd like to see that story one day, but if there is going to be a whole separate trilogy, I would prefer that we learn about something completely new. Imagine if there was another Light and Dark conflict in a galaxy far far away from the galaxy far far away with different politics, different histories, different technology, different understanding of the force, different aliens... an entire blank slate where NO ONE knows what's going to happen because it's not building on any legacy characters or storylines.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  18. Boss Vos

    Boss Vos Rebel Official

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Posts:
    856
    Likes Received:
    1,100
    Trophy Points:
    7,367
    Credits:
    2,072
    Ratings:
    +1,734 / 123 / -46
    Exactly. I've been saying this before, and I think if they do it more closely in tone and style to TCW than Rebels, I think it could be very, very cool.

    Umm, I don't wanna sound rude or anything, but having another light and dark conflict in the galaxy with different politics, technology and everything, and have neither side of the galaxy know about each other sounds too much like weird fan fiction to me. Plus, why go through the problematic process of having such a huge conflict in the other side of galaxy and explain it by being in "unknown regions" JUST because you want it to be set between ROTJ and TFA? Why not just have it take place before the prequels, it's much easier. You can have a new type of light and dark conflict, other politics, other technology (older, in this case), and you don't need endless explanations of expositions.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Wise Wise x 1
  19. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,371
    Likes Received:
    15,477
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,998
    Ratings:
    +20,620 / 309 / -97
    Keeping stories on the same time line makes the most sense going forward. It will help create a future forward for the Skywalker saga, but more importantly the characters in the new trilogy can participate in stories with Rey/Finn and company.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. Boss Vos

    Boss Vos Rebel Official

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Posts:
    856
    Likes Received:
    1,100
    Trophy Points:
    7,367
    Credits:
    2,072
    Ratings:
    +1,734 / 123 / -46
    Didn't you read the statement? Rian's trilogy is not going to be connected to the Skywalker saga, and it's not going to take place in an already established era.

    Keeping stories in-between the Episodic movies makes the least sense.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Wise Wise x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
Loading...

Share This Page