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SPECULATION When is the trigger for a fourth trilogy announcement?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by MarsPhoenix, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. The Hero With No Fear

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    This new trilogy is NOT Episodes 10, 11, and 12. It won't focus on the Skywalkers, it'll focus on new characters, in a new part of the galaxy, in a new era. Before Episode 1 and/or after Episode 9. From there on, anything's fair game.

    I think this is kinda exciting, because any idea following this criteria could be it. I think that it could be an Old Republic trilogy, but I'm not sure if they'd do that yet. I could also see it being somewhat like Star Wars Legacy, but I'm not sure about that either. They gave us so much information and yet so little, and I love that.
     
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    There's seems to be some confusion about what Lucasfilm announced so please read this again:

    That doesn't say in a different time period. The galaxy is a very large place and there's plenty of places to explore that aren't related to the Skywalkers. Heck, in the known galaxy Luke is a myth. I hate to keep repeating myself, but it's not getting through... this new trilogy can take place on the same timeline and never interact with the Skywalkers. If the trilogy is a hit the new characters are free to interact with our other heroes in stand alone movies or the continuation of the Skywalker saga.

    It may not happen of course, but it's certainly possible and it would make business sense.
     
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    Honestly, you could have a Mark Hamill cameo in the RJ's new trilogy, and still not have it be part of the Skywalker Saga. Having it be independent of the Skywalker Saga is not same as having it take place in a galaxy where there are no Skywalkers. Nor is there any reason to think the new characters RJ creates will be kept permanently separate from the rest of the established Star Wars Universe.

    For now at least, just about anything is still possible.
     
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    And yet they killed all of the cast of Rogue One and they had no financial incentive to do. If Kathleen Kennedy didn't want a trilogy that is as far removed from Skywalker saga as possible, this sentence wouldn't appear in the press release.
    May he create something that can be tied to Skywalker drama later? Sure. He may. But the chances of it being un-tie-able are far greater.
     
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    This is an apple and oranges comparison. Rogue One was a stand alone film that takes place right before A New Hope, a film made 40 years ago. This comparison doesn't make a lot of sense.

    Chances based on what? Your opinion? Not very convincing. It's okay to disagree, but we have no idea what's coming. It's anyone's guess.
     
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    There is no confusion in the statement, none but what you make.

    The statement is vague as it is, but instead of creating fan fiction you can at least make a few logical assumptions from it. To say something like "It doesn't say different time period, so that means it could still take place in the OT or ST era" is simply fan mania. I find it quite amusing that you mock others opinions in this thread, as if your own opinion is the most convincing one.

    Like I mentioned before, since they're going to include the Skywalkers it makes no sense to have it take place within the Episodic saga. If we are going to base everything on what Rian didn't say, the list is going to be very, very, very long...
     
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    You were talking about "making business sense" and I gave you an example of a storytelling decision that doesn't "make business sense." There are also other examples, like not making the OT trio infinitely successful, not letting them have "grand reunion" and other stuff like that.

    Maths. The earliest event that happened in canon is the birth of the Jedi Order, that took place a thousand generations ago, which obviously was a long time ago. Moreover, the size of the Galaxy in which Star Wars takes place, is massive, so speaking from pure probability theory perspective, there is a much bigger chance of this trilogy happening in time and/or place unrelated to Skywalkers.
     
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    This is a weird thing to say when I closed my post with...
    It's fine if you don't like the idea, but calling everything you don't like "fan fiction" isn't a compelling argument.

    Ah, that does make sense from that perspective. I'm thinking more pragmatically in terms of movie franchises. When Marvel made Guardians of the Galaxy they could have placed them at any time, but they in the same timeline as Thor and the rest of the Avengers for future films. Let's face it, the the films trump everything else. If Lucasfilm changes timelines it's going to confuse the audience.
     
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    It wasn't your post to me, it was your post to Pawek_13 where you wrote "Chances based on what? Your opinion? Not very convincing."

    It's not confusing for the audience, all you need to say is "1000 YEARS BEFORE THE SKYWALKERS", or something like that. And it's not like audiences aren't used to time jumping in Star Wars, it's been like that since 1999. Not to mention all the upcoming anthology movies which are going to be in so many different time settings.

    What would be confusing though, would be to justify and explain why a trilogy taking place at a time when Luke Skywalker is rebuilding his Jedi Order, is showing another separate conflict that has nothing to do with the rest of the galaxy. For a standalone film, sure. But a trilogy? Nope.
     
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    There's no reason to debate this any further. I don't have an emotional connection to wherever the story group decides to go. You've got your theory, I've got mine. Agree to disagree. :)
     
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    I don't have an emotional connection to anything outside the current timelines (yet), so that's not really the issue.

    Here's my pitch for Rian's trilogy: Taking place at the height of the Empire between ESB and ROTJ, but in the unknown regions of the galaxy where the Imperial presence is yet to be.... So, a group of bounty hunters being chased by an Imperial fleet ends up trapped in a cosmic field that sends them to a strange planet full of swamps and weird creatures and stuff. The planet is divided between two races that are in an ongoing war. The bounty hunters will be like Boba Fett - very cool characters. And the Imperials can make lots of references to the Emperor och Vader and stuff! But the other main characters will be the royal family from the planet. It will be like a family soap opera, and there will be no Force users because the Force doesn't exist on this planet and stuff! But there will be lots of references to the Force and stuff. Yeah!

    Yeah, that was a joke.
     
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    Personally I'd love to see a high level TV series.

    I'd like to see them go down the Gotham route and aim it at a more adult audience and possibly set around the first force users or the beginnings of the Jedi and Sith.

    It would massively diversify the portfolio by developing something aimed at the original fanbase rather that focusing solely on the new generation.
     
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    This sounds great. Although I wonder if they'd use the scripts that were already developed a few years ago.
     
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    Personally, I feel the beginnings of the Jedi and Sith would be better suited as films.

    But, for a more adult audience I think a TV series set several millennia BBY on Moraband during a clan war between Sith kings would be interesting.
     
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    Would be awesome definitely ;);)..
     
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    Is SW going where no SW saga has gone b4?

    "R"

    DUN DUN DUUUUUUNNNNN!
     
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    But one can dream - right?
     
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    I don't think the original unaltered versions of OT should be released as a separate thing, it would be a bad idea. I would prefer if they are included as a bonus feature on future Blu-Rays.
     
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    the core of Star Wars is space opera and family friendly entertainment.

    as much as i would love to see an R rated Star Wars film i highly doubt we'll get one.

    in regards to space opera, which is generally defined as large scale in action and adventure and stakes, you would think that whatever Rian is cooking up will be pretty epic in scope. with that being said, i feel it will likely not occur during the same time period as the Skywalker saga. the fact that the Skywalker's are caught up in a galactic power struggle is about as large scale as you can get. sure, Rian may be able to cook something up that is as grand and is happening around the same time, but i feel like that may diminish the importance of the Skywalker saga during that same time period.
     
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    I don't expect Disney to make an adult themed Star Wars show - but stranger things have happened. They are likely to put the new Star Wars animated series on the streaming service too, so they could have that one for the younger audience, and the live action series for the adults.

    I can't help but think that setting the live action series in the distant past makes sense. Not only would it give the series the freedom to become it's own thing without stepping on the toes of the movies, they could use the older technology as an excuse to save on production costs. And you would have to think, of all the big action sequences that you see in Star Wars, lightsaber battles would be the easiest (and cheapest) to film for television - so a period where both Jedi and Sith were prevalent would work form that perspective as well.
     
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