Where was Luke?

What if he was lured away by Snoke. Maybe Snoke kidnapped Mama Jade and Rey. Luke goes to rescue. Mama dies. Luke puts a few holes in Snokes head. Feels a disturbence. Come's back to find his Padawans dead.

 

This is from the Databank of Lor San Tekka:

A legendary traveler and explorer, Lor San Tekka is a longtime ally of the New Republic and the Resistance. After the Battle of Endor, San Tekka helped Luke Skywalker recover secret Jedi lore that the Empire had tried to erase, and Leia Organa hopes the old scout can now help find her brother. Following decades of adventure, San Tekka retired to live simply on Jakku, where he follows the dictates of the once-forbidden Church of the Force. But his retirement is fated to be anything but peaceful.

In the new canon materials outside of the films, Luke is shown to be exploring the galaxy somewhat looking into Palpatine's research labs in the Outer Rim and seeking Jedi lore.

So this might explain where he was at the time. But this warrants the question:
Who was in charge at the academy when he was away and did his absence hinder the development of the new Jedi?
Another question is why didn't Luke sense the imminent threat against the academy?

 

Jedi never seem to see Dark Sider User machinations when they're in motion until it's too late. If Yoda and the entire Jedi Council couldn't sense Palpatine, I'll give Luke a pass on not seeing Snoke's plan to turn Ben to Kylo. As to who was in charge at the Academy? That's a good question.

 

Fair point, but I was really referring to how Luke doesn't sense the future attack on the academy when, for instance, he senses the future torture and suffering of Han & Leia on Bespin....

 

Maybe they made a distraction for Luke strong enough on the other side of the galaxy and then stacked when he reached there ...

 

There was a Lucas quote in the Making of TPM book saying something like, "For all its power, the Dark Side is difficult to detect."

Heck, when Dooku throws Force lightning at Yoda, all Yoda can say is, "The Dark Side, I sense in you."

Yeah, like the Lightning wasn't a big enough clue, right?

 

even if Luke sensed something was imminent that doesn't mean he was able to defend the temple against it.

he obviously knew Ben was troubled (that's why he was sent to him), but he may not have realized to the degree or that there was someone more powerful behind Ben's problems.

and it's not like the Force faxxed him the date and time and numbers of his assailants. we don't have enough information yet about what went down.

 

I've always disliked how clueless the Jedi appear in detecting Dark Side manipulation until it has almost completely accomplished it's goal... especially when some of the clues didn't seem to require The Force to discern.

 

Apparently all Jedi are color-blind....because they don't notice the red lightsabers, either.

 

I'm legit starting to wonder is being easily duped one of the de facto weak points of the Light Side, I mean it happens so consistently it would be hard to argue it's not.

 

The Prequel Trilogy Era Jedi appear to have grown far too complacent and dangerously sure of themselves. Perhaps i

It was something that was bound to happen once the Jedi began to blindly accept absence of evidence as evidence of absence with regards to the Sith.

So sure they were about their place in the universe, the Jedi ironically became a danger to themselves and could not sense the Palpatine's true nature and rise to power.

Remember when, in The Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon Jinn appealed to the Jedi Council, informing them of his suspicion of a Sith lord. Ki-Adi-Mundi and Mace Windu's replies were:

• "Impossible! The Sith are extinct! They have been for nearly a millenium."
• "I agree. The Sith would not have returned without us sensing it."

And then again Mace Windu momentarily doubts Anakin, in Revenge of the Sith, when Anakin reveals what he has learned about Palpatine: "A Sith Lord?" and "How do you know this?"

Perhaps it was even more of a matter of close-mindedness for the Jedi to become so unaware.

Hopefully Luke has that all sorted out now and can pass on his new awareness.

JediMasterRobert

 

Interesting theory that it was Snoke who kidnapped Luke's family but I find it difficult to reconcile with my impression that a woman was on board the ship that left Jakku and that Kylo knew about a girl on Jakku. I wouldn't be able to picture this rescue mission if it's supposed to have been without results (i.e. couldn't locate the girl) and since nobody knows any stories about Luke Skywalker being observed on some rescue mission before Kylo destroys his work.

 

luke was getting a nap the whole time when republic was being destoryed. what a irresposible dude

 

So heres what i think happened...
-Luke is of doing something
-The massacre happens
-Luke feels it, and heads straight home as fast as possible
-During that time, Kylo finds Rey, and protects her, cuz they're cousins, duhhh
-Kylo takes Rey
-Luke gets to the massacre
-No sign of Rey, Luke believes she is dead
-Luke fleas
-Rey is dropped on Jakku, by Kylo

 

Unless Pablo Hidalgo and Daisy Ridley are basically lying, Rey was dropped on Jakku before Luke's "academy" was attacked. Therefore, Rey was not likely involved in the events that occurred during the massacre. The only way she was involved is if Luke has been searching for her when the massacre happened. The question that brings is why was he looking for her? The likely most obvious answer is that she is his daughter. However, if she is his daughter, why did he stop looking for her after the massacre? Maybe after some soul searching with the force he realized that it was a mistake to go looking for her and that she would eventually find him. While it is possible, I suspect that the write up posted above discussing Lor San Tekka is most likely what was going on. Luke was likely going out into the galaxy trying to learn more about of the force. He may have been on his search for Ach-to.

 

Thank you. The references you quote are exactly the evidence I need to support my theory that Luke has been "away" for a longer time than the years since Ben's defection. I could imagine the three paragraphs in the crawl to refer to three different time periods.

If Luke went on space travels right after ROTJ, he obviously wasn't around to supervise Ben Solo's infancy and be aware of Snoke. I take it he only returned when he actually had found the "first Jedi temple" (whatever that is ) and started to train a new generation of Jedi. There simply was no academy in the early years after ROTJ. Luke may have felt that he wasn't ready to teach anything until he had found out how and why his father had turned to the dark side.