Who are the Last Jedi?

Mike Zeroh makes like 2 or more click-bait videos a day on youtube on anything that comes to his mind. Any rumour he sees he makes a short video on it. He does a lot of "what if" videos. Nothing with real substance as his videos tend to be around 3-4 mins each.
I stopped watching his videos several months ago. So annoying

 

I really want to see other Jedi but from what I've read online, its most likely Rey, Luke, and Ben Solo. I don't want Kylo to turn to the light side but it looks like thats a viable option. Maybe in the next trilogy we'll get new Jedi.

 

I don't know if this was answered so I'm gonna take a whack at it.

Padawans move to the status of Jedi when they are declared Jedi Knights. In order to become a Jedi Knight, you needed to complete their training and pass the Jedi trials. You need even more training to become a Master and other Masters are the only ones to bestow that title on Knights. Anakin was a Jedi Knight and one of his major issues in ROTS is that the council don't believe he's ready to be a Master. I've not really watched the Clone Wars TV show but I believe he was a Jedi Knight during that time so he must've been granted the title between the film and the show.
I don't think they ever stop referring to their trainer as their Master, even if they become a Master themselves. But I would say they would completely stop their apprenticeship when they are Masters.
Now to bring Luke into the mix - he didn't have the training that others did but he still received training. I believe, as he wasn't able to take the Jedi Trials the same as others had in the past, his trials were different. I would say his trials were overcoming the darkness within him and taking on his father - with compassion. And having a hand in defeating the Empire, he would be a Jedi Knight. Now the old rules are kind of out the window as we don't know where exactly Luke is in his training, let alone Ben. If we say Luke is a Jedi Master, he must be receiving a lot more training from the Force. If he's still a Jedi Knight, then we know he could take Ben on as his learner. I think it's assumed that he's taken on the role of Master as he trained/is training multiple learners.
SO! I would say/I believe that Ben was a padawan learner with Luke, maybe coming close to becoming a Knight. Luke might have sensed the darkness in him and felt hesitant to pursue Ben's training and give him a title like Knight. Snoke mentions at the end of TFA that Kylo needs to complete his training. I don't know how Sith training works, to be honest. But while he's talented with a blade, he doesn't seem to be in control of anything. So I think he has a lot to learn. And while he offered to teach Rey, I think he was asking because he realized she'd be more powerful as an ally - not because he has the capacity to teach.

That's just my long-winded two cents.

 

Luke - The Jedi Master

Rey - The Jedi Apprentice

Kylo - The Fallen Jedi

 

The last Jedi are the KOR

 

Luke, Rey and FINN! He had an awakening too you know.

 

These six

 

Thanks to the amazing discussion so far, this is the thread of the week!

Congrats to everyone who's contributed so far.

 

I definitely see Luke as being "The" Last Jedi, singular, but with Rey set to start training as one. I have also wondered if Luke could have sent some of his own Jedi out into the galaxy, to wait, as he has been, for the right time to come back (when he does). Or, the Knights of Ren may be some of Luke's old Jedi, but fallen, along with Ben. Even Snoke could potentially be a former Jedi (though he could also just as easily be a Dark Side Force user from outside the galaxy, linking a bit to the Aftermath books and Palpatine's out-of-galaxy interests).

But Yoda, Anakin, and Obi-Wan were also, previously, the last Jedi. At least one of them is very likely to appear. Unless they reveal that none of them have chosen to contact Luke for some time, which would throw a wrench in that idea (maybe they'll show up in some form in IX).

 

exactly

 

What if there is another Jedi Master or a Jedi that helped Luke train students at the "Temple" and he escaped the slaughter? Kylo thinking or feeling that this person was eliminated with the others, went back to Snoke and told him that ALL are dead. When Luke and Ben were traveling the Galaxy, I'd think there was someone overseeing the students and their training. Maybe it was this person?

 

It would be interesting if any exiled ones came back.

 

I also agree that Luke was the predictable answer to the title, because the words "The Last Jedi" appeared in TFA's opening crawl and also Snoke used them in the movie. In both cases, they were referring to Luke, as singular. However, a few weeks ago, the international titles confirmed the title was plural indeed. I'm sure for most folks here, this is old news.

I want to believe that the title doesn't refer to Luke+Rey, as it would be too obvious, and I personally dislike obviousness.

Take the example of the tittle "Return of the Jedi". Most people, including me, believed that the title referred to Luke. After all, he was returning to his home planet, to Dagobah to meet Yoda, to another death star, and to meet his father. But then, the title should have read the "returns" not the return. However, the key thing here, as many folks have pointed out here, is that Luke wasn't a Jedi at any of these 4 returns. He became a Jedi *after* facing Vader. And after this, the only place he returned to was Endor. For a while, I questioned whether the title may have referred as "The Jedi" in plural or as an organization. That is to say, when Yoda dies, the Jedi are gone; and when Luke faces Vader and becomes a Jedi, the Jedi return. It took me years (even after watching ROTS) to realize what probably most of you already know: that the title of Return of the Jedi referred to Anakin. After killing Palpatine, Vader came back to the Light side of the Force: Anakin was the Jedi who returned.

Luke already had a title for him: he was the new hope in ANH. So, I hope he doesn't get a new one. He doesn't need it. Rey already had one too: TFA refers directly to her awakening. She doesn't need another one.

I really hope the title refers to others:

• Option 1: Ezra+Kanan. Very very unlikely, but who knows.
• Option 2: The Knights of Ren. I don't think so, as apparently most of them don't use lightsabers, but who knows, perhaps they will.
• Option 3: Some new Jedi characters who went underground for decades (other Order 66 survivors). I ruled out Ahsoka, not because she is not alive (we don't know) but because she's not longer a Jedi. She walked away from the Order.
• Option 4: New Jedi apprentices who had survived Kylo's attack to Luke's academy.
• Option 5: Kenobi+Yoda. The strongest possibility in my humble opinion. They were once "the last Jedi" of the old republic. And they were also present during Rey's vision, communicating to her. Rey's vision was a pivotal moment in TFA. I would be surprised if the next movie comes and completely forgets the fact that Kenobi & Yoda were part of a critical moment of the previous episode. It wasn't a random cameo. Also, everybody (including Snoke and Leia) are assuming that Luke is STILL a Jedi. Why if he's not? In TFA, Han said that Luke "walked away from everything". At first, it looks like Han was referring to walking away from teaching new Jedi students, but why if he was also referring to walking away from the Jedi life as Aksoka did once? Keeping you powers without becoming a Sith. Han's assertion that Luke was searching for the first Jedi temple was based on rumors according to him. Still, if true, he may very well quit as a Jedi (like once quit his job) but still have desire of knowledge, and that's where Kenobi+Yoda could play a role. Leia already said "Luke is a Jedi". However, perhaps he was a Jedi at the time they separated from each other?

 

I'm not sure if this will make you unhappy (since you seem to have a little OCD about having multiple titles for single characters, which I can understand, lol), but my impression is that you're assuming each title has only one meaning. Return of the Jedi is a one example. The title itself is meant to refer to the return of THE Jedi, through Luke, as well as too Jedi Knight Anakin's own return.

The Phantom Menace may be the best example of multiple meanings though. While the marketing and posters implied that The Phantom Menace was either Darth Maul (as a sort of shadow-warrior menace), or Anakin Skywalker (who was a sort of invisible menace-in-the-waiting). But then also, of course, the Sith themselves, as an "organization" were a phantom menace. As was Palpatine, as both Sith, senator, and emperor-in-waiting.

The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi may also have anywhere between 1 and 3 meetings at once. No matter what though, Luke is part of the title. He is one of its meanings, but certainly not the only one

 

I'm wondering if the Last Jedi refers to more than just Luke, Rey and potentially Ben.

Perhaps Rey is not the only person hidden from Snoke and with the rise of the First Order Luke decides it's time to track down the others and train them.

 

Hi there,

What do you mean by this?

That the knights of Ren were once Jedi in training, with Luke? And this was there fate, to follow Ben Solo to the dark side?

 

yweah i was also slightly confused by that. Sort of like are they from the jedi order or luke's last jedi? ?

 

Luke skywalker, singular