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SPECULATION Why is Luke's / Anakin's saber important

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Kramgnol, Jul 16, 2015.

  1. Laggamaroo

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    Some interesting quotes I found in the Making of ESB book:

    “The appropriate way for Luke to go off to become a Jedi Knight would be for him to be called. He has a feeling he has to go someplace. It can’t be an accident. Luke might receive some message from Obi-Wan, some kind of code that he figures out is a signal beacon. He’s constantly trying to figure it out, so there is a little mystery going on.
    “It could be something that Ben left him. It could be something that he hasn’t even thought about and he just finds it in his pocket one day. It could be in his sword handle. Whatever it is should be connected with the sword because we saw Ben give Luke the sword. He’s practicing with the sword and he actually bumps something the wrong way and something crystal, clear with lots of shattered glass in it, would pop out of the handle. It would be like a hologram. It would be an infinite amount of information in a storage memory system, a holographic storage system. He doesn’t know how to decipher it, so he shows it to Artoo, who would say, ‘It is a crystalline holographic memory system containing three million two hundred fifty-four bits of information. Most of it is in a configuration that is incomprehensible to me although some of it appears to be coordinates for various star systems.’
     
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    The mystery Anakin lightsaber journey will be solved on 18/12/15.
     
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    I'm trying to remember when Anakin begins using this "legendary" saber. In AOTC, the saber he had from the beginning of that film was sliced in half in the droid factory. After the arena battle erupted, and he broke free of his chains, a random Jedi throws him a random saber to join in the battle. Is this the saber that he then continues to use up until his fateful battle with Obi Wan on Mustafar. Is this the saber that Obi Wan takes as Anakin lies at his feet burning to death? Or did Anakin build himself a new light saber after the battle of Geonosis which he uses throughout the Clone Wars? Your thoughts on this, please.
     
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    Does the random saber look like the force awakens saber?
     
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    That's my question. Did Anakin acquire/build a different light saber after Geonosis? Also, did he take that saber with him after his arm was chopped off by Dooku?
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 18, 2015, Original Post Date: Jul 18, 2015 ---
    Wait! I should have done my homework. I You-tubed the arena battle. Anakin is thrown a GREEN bladed light saber by the random Jedi! It can't be the same saber that he uses in the Clone Wars and is eventually handed down to Luke!
     
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    Interesting considering Kasdan wrote ESB and the rumors floating around about this saber

    EDIT. I just reread my post and no pun was intended
     
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    Alright first off I am not so sure the object is a lightsaber. I haven't really read much on the new movie but it seems to me like they would be looking for something of a lot more importance. I mean the idea of it being a lightsaber is as dumb as those short novels that involved the glove of Darth Vader. I am thinking perhaps a holocron. Perhaps it belonged to Obi-Wan. It could be the very same one Luke used to help him in the construction of his second saber. I also don't think we should dismiss all of the expanded universe. Yes some is clearly thrown out. Some like Shadows of the Empire (novel version) and The Thrawn Trilogy. If JJ is a true fan like he claims. he might decide to use them. Even GL liked The Thrawn Trilogy. If JJ does use Mara Jade like so many are hoping and some rumors say he is, then it would be foolish to discard The Thrawn Trilogy which originally introduced her. For those who haven't read the novels, it explains how Luke's first saber was recovered. Luke ended up giving it to Mara Jade after he got it back. Later on they got married. Now I would love to see Mara passing it down to one of her kids to keep the family tradition of passing the saber along. As for when Anakin made it. Your guess is as good as mine. It is possible it is one Anakin made just prior to being made a jedi knight. A way of showing he was ready to be promoted and passing a trial. Part of tradition and their training was to make their own lightsaber. It is possible after Anakin did that he ended up acquiring another saber and stopped using the one he had made. As for the strength of Luke's green blade holding up to Vader's, keep in mind The Sith usually created their own crystals in a manner similar to what Luke did. So his blade being on par with Vader's would be of no surprise. The main risk that came from using such crystals is that a crystal could contain impurities that could effect the strength of the blade and possibly even cause it to become unstable which of course created the risk of the lightsaber exploding. A well made crystal though could be just as good as the real thing.
     
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    Welcome to the Cantina, Jam.

    That's a good point about the synthetic crystals, and how Luke's green and Vader's red would kind of be equal to each other... if, in fact there is a difference between the real crystals and the synthetic. And if that is even canon any more. I don't know.

    I wonder if this thread should have a spoiler tag on it rather than a speculation tag, since there is a reason we are wondering about this particular lightsaber. But as it sounds like you don't want to be spoiled, I won't say more than that. Just to be safe.
     
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    Its not special cause its magic. It has a sense of magic for us because it fits in the story like a magic item of legend. Just like the Death Star was the ultimate evil warlords castle. Its part of the fun of having a space fantasy it feels like a fairy tale but looks like sci fi. The sabre is special within the story cause it is a connection to Vader and Luke. It was passed father to son and now to the next generation it does not need to be magic to integral to the plot.
     
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    It has to be magical to survive atmospheric re-entry and crash landing without a scratch on it. And then to have the most important people in the galaxy after it, even though it is only a metaphorical torch to passed from one hero to the next.

    The lightsaber is a stupid plot device, even a if it is minor one. The lightsaber is no more specially attached to luke or vader than the blaster luke used when he was disguised as a stormtrooper. They are just supposed to be weapons.
     
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    If that were the case, then Ben would have just said to Luke, "Oh, and here's some random lightsaber I'd like to give you." He didn't say that because there was special significance to that particular weapon. It'll be the same in this movie.
     
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    I didn't say wasn't a skywalker family heirloom, but to say it is so important to them that somehow holds their essence and you can track luke with it is just a dumb idea. It is just a weapon it doesn't hold any magic connection to previous owners.
     
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    Well, I never said any of that about essence or tracking down people. Perhaps that's in the movie... I don't know. It's a symbol to us as movie-goers and fans. It's a physical representation of all that came before, and the potential for all that's coming next. That's why it's made to be a big deal in the movies. If that seems unrealistic, then I'm not sure what else to say. This is just how stories work.
     
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    Well, a natural crystal is tuned to a force users ability (see below). So I could see why Kylo and the FO would want this saber. Not only was it Darth Vader / Anakin's, but Luke's saber as well. Not sure what is canon about sith sorcery any more, but in the clone wars it was very apparent that they could use objects to create some very unnatural things.

    "At the heart of every Jedi lightsaber is a kyber crystal found on several planets, most notably the icebound caves of Ilum. This crystal is attuned to the Force, and connected to a Jedi Knight on a deeply personal level. In this way, a lightsaber is an extension of a Jedi's Force awareness. Because Jedi let the Force guide their selection of the crystal, the vibration that the crystal creates in the lightsaber blade helps Jedi center themselves and find balance in the Force. In this way, a Jedi can center his or her attention beyond the distractions of combat. A lightsaber crystal is colorless until first attuned and connected to a Jedi -- at which times it glows either blue or green, or in some rare instances, another shade. From that point on, it retains that hue." -Data Bank entry Starwars.com
     
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