Official Finn Episode VIII thread

The Trio in the ST is Rey, Finn, and.... Kylo Ren???








You guys are losing me like for real.

 

It's Kylo Ren. Poe and Rey didn't even interact onscreen in the movie (one interaction cut from the novelizations). Kylo Ren is the other counterpart to Rey going forward along with Finn.

Big three roles:
Rey, Finn, Kylo Ren

Big three heroes:
Rey, Finn, Poe


Link here to my own research just solely for TFA.

 

The big 3 are the protagonists.

 

It's not like that anymore. Poe is barely a character. Kylo Ren is a character. Finn is a character. Rey is a character.

 

That's what I thought to, but I'll wait to hear the rebuttal

 

Poe is a character. He's clearly getting a lot more screen time now.

Rey/Finn/Poe are the big 3.
Kylo is the villain.

 

The villain parts were always smaller in the other trilogies. They're not doing it that way here. The villain part is the trilogy tertiary lead now. It used to be a hero. But now it's not. And like Anakin wasn't a hero by the end of III, he might not be acting as a villain by the end of IX.

 

Only way I see an argument for Kylo being in the big three is if he flips, and not like Vader in the last 10min of the last move in the trilogy.

Besides, I think Kylo is in a different trio all together. Kylo, Phasma, and random speech dude.

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On second thought, The Force Awakens felt more like two duos. Finn & Rey and Finn & Poe. It's hard to call them a big three if they never interacted as a trio.

 

They big three are the protagonists. I really don't know how else to describe it. It's why they were the big three. Because they were your three heroes. Same with this one. Not everything has to be identical.

Vader would have been a part of the big three over Han if it were all characters considered.

 

I hear you. The guy actually is trying to sell the notion that being a smart mouth is an admirable, rare trait that allows a major character to stand out among others in an intergalactic conflict. That's either a horrible case of trolling or the dude actually believes it. I'm not sure which is worse.

 

For all those who say Finn not force senstive, and from the vote him not being has the most votes I think that will make the last jedi better than the force awakens when you find out in 8 he is force senstive. For those who follow the article in the Vanity about the last jedi, that was to throw you off, who and the hell tellings his fans there be no Reylo, no Finn using the lightsaber not politics in the last jedi, why would they spoil that for its fans before the movie come out, by saying such and such will not be in it, it because they want you to see the movie thinking you will not see these things, so when it does come up in the movie the last jedi you be more shocked because they lied to you openly in the Vanity article , take what you read in the vanity about the last jedi as what they did with TFA marketing misdirect its audience to make them feel more shock when the see the movie.

 

And you call out others for trolling while writing a line like that? That's pretty much like saying that Padme is the heart of the prequels and as actress Emily Browning recently stated that title tends to go to the characters not nearly as fleshed out or interesting as their counterparts. Padme was a badly handled character and the most interesting things about her life was that she got involved in a relationship with Anakin and gave birth to Luke and Leia.

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Still not all that ORIGINAL either.

 

The person is saying it would be a good way to show Finn force sensitive if he is, how they can do it.

Truth be about FInn and John Boyega when they had Star Wars 40th anniversary John Boyega got a bigger reaction from the crowd when he came out on stage, the vibe was not the same for Dasiy. Stars Wars no matter how you turn it or twisted it it was a movie made for young boys and girls, and the biggest Fans of Star Wars are Men, just look up how many men have Youtube videos just for Star Wars it outnumbers the Women who are Fans. Shooting and Fighting fits the boyhood and manhood of males and this is why most men love Star Wars! So no matter if they make Finn force Senstive or Not he still the man that why right now he has a better acting career than Dasiy. The man knows how to act and has a good vibe with him. Dasiy she pretty and nice she dont have it to carry the whole Star Wars Trilogy, matter in fact in the last jedi people going care more about LUKE SKYWALKER more than Rey and Finn or Poe or Leia or any one else in Stars Wars!

 

Ahhh. Isn't that cute. He put together a graph just so he could make use of it in his SW debates. For those who don't know Magnar was obsesses with pointing out that Rey was the clear lead that he went about counting the minutes (or seeking info about it) of all the characters in TFA. Didn't know he went as far to make a graph out of it though. That's swell.

Still means nothing. Kylo is not part of the trio. We don't consider the bad guys to be part of the trio we root for. And Kylo is a bad guy. Neither Disney or LF promote him as being part of the trio. Its always Rey, Finn and Poe. Now.....I've read and heard comments by some that they think there is no trio, that there is just the duo of Rey and Finn. And of course there are those out there who think there is only one primary character in Rey and everyone else is supporting at best. Who are the folks who think that Kylo is part of the new Trio? Well, there are the individuals so pressed for a Rey-Kylo romance that they pretend he will really end up a good guy (despite killing Han and members of the Resistance as well as torturing people and slashing Finn's back). And then there are the types who are so in need of A Skywalker male or a white male in general to be one of the trio, that they resort to revisionism and wishful thinking.

 

This. Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

The trio is shown in the TFA poster. Kylo Ren, Rey, and Finn. Mathematically - and this is a fact - those three are the largest three new parts in The Force Awakens. Not this BS that Poe's role is bigger than Kylo Ren. There's even the potential that Rose will be a bigger part than Poe in VIII.

 

To add I really don't care about Luke and Rey relationship in the Last Jedi she already beat the guy who destroyed his school and students so what can Luke teach her she a Mary Sue! She did more with the force in one movie than Luke did and three movies, it took him three movies to be a Jedi and to be strong with the force so he could beat his father Vader. But Rey learn all the Jedi tricks without a teacher all in one movie, what can Luke teach her? I bet you they will have Rey being the motivator for Luke in the last Jedi a realy Mary Sue.

I care more about what Luke & Finn will do, I care more about if Luke will fight Kylo Ren, I care more about how Luke & Leia seeing each other will be. I don't care much for Rey it not because i hate women it because in one movie they make her more powerful to most Jedi and she not even a Jedi yet!

 

Poe wasn't much of a character in TFA because he initially wasn't supposed to live past the first 30 minutes of the film. Even with the shutdown as a result of Ford's injury, JJ and Kasdan didn't have the time to reshape the script to such an extent that Poe was fleshed out more. Looks like his role will greatly increase for The Last Jedi though.

That being said if people really want to have others view Kylo as being part of the main trio then perhaps they can petition Driver to take a step away from his method approach and actually promote these movies as if he was one of the main stars. Because from where I sit I only see Ridley and Boyega busting their butts to be at every event taking questions from media and the fans alike.

 

That's why she was the most human, because Lucas didn't get the chance to muck her up by making her a robot largely void of emotion or uncontrollable rage monster who slaughters villages. There's very little empathy in the PT except for Padme. Empathy, is a very human thing.

Neither was the original trilogy but hey, what can ya do? It's Star Wars.

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And that still isn't WHY they were the big three.

No one said his role was bigger than Kylo Ren's.

And by the logic of your last line, there's potential Kylo will turn into a porg

 

Poe was a bit character that was supposed to die until JJ Abrams decided he wasn't because he's a hack. Poe barely counts as a character and by all appearances has been completely replaced by Rose. Finn's main purpose is to be a joke/red herring, and now Rian Johnson has decided to ignore that by having the rebellion turn to the audience and go: Those two hours don't count, Finn is TOTALLY AWESOME GUYS!!! The truth is there is no "Trio" in this series, there's Rey and nothing else.