OFFICIAL NEWS A Lasting Record Of Solo's Financial Performance.

The NY Times believes Disney spent >$400M on Solo.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/27/movies/solo-a-star-wars-story-sputters-at-box-office.html



The studio only keeps a % of that, not all of that.

 

Word of mouth on Solo is pretty good. The Incredibles 2 arrives on June 15 and Jurassic World 2 on June 22nd. Lucasfilm will need for the film to hold well next weekend. This could be random to me but a few of my Star Wars fans friends weren't in a big hurry to see the film opening weekend. They're planning on seeing it this week.

 

this movie needs a 4.00 multiplier to not be a Maclunkey laughing stock

 

The real challenge here is Lucasfilm is under a lot of pressure to promote diversity at the directors helms. There just isn't a lot of diversity in Hollywood and Lucafilm can't afford to take many more unproven directors. I assume they'll really push this for TV episodes, but it's going to be a challenge for movies.

 

Nobody established wants to make Star Wars films for the current Lucasfilm. Its already murderers row over there when it comes to directors. Ron Howard took one for the team in following up TLJ and getting Solo into theaters. It was a thankless task and i'm sure Disney has him covered if he finds a passion project that needs backing. Abrams was brought back for 9, because nobody else would even touch it, or even has a prayer of salvaging it after the wreckage of 8. Rainy has an 'announced' trilogy, simply due to his willingness to play ball, the fact that they couldn't get many others and needed to show status quo, and the hope that if they towed the line, it wasn't as bad as it appeared once they got to Solo. I think its safe to say that's pretty well rogered now. Any followup Solo films are up in smoke, for sure.

Honestly... i'll call it.. this is Kennedy's head on a pike moment. She's done at Lucasfilm, whether she realizes it or not. There is simply too much blood in the water and $400 million for the first SW movie to open in May in 13 years is simply too embarassing. All thats left now is the inevitable kiss of death when they use it to dump a large write-off.

I also have a feeling they will turn 9 into the 'conclusion' of The Saga as a selling point. If so, that means the actions of Kennedy and Johnson will likely have cost the company upwards of $5 billion from the loss of movie revenue alone for a second trilogy in 10-12 that could have used that push to sell it. Just wow.

This will be a day long remembered.

If only it worked that way. It doesn't. They are clearly beyond the point of no return, and the money they've been throwing at sites to 'spin' TLJ and not admit they screwed up, has only fueled the backlash with General Audiences taking a pass. Hardcores still showed, you see how few of them there are. You can't convince people of something by throwing money at it, the only thing you accomplish is hardening their opinion against you for having done so.

 

@zazeron

For the love of god just stop talking about the Old Republic. This isn't the time or place for your unwanted and unnecessary headcanon.

 

LOL.. Who?

And you'll never find an industry insider that claims reviews don't matter, any more than you'll find a cop willing to rat out his buddies. For the same reasons.

And just to be clear... there is a point they do matter... usually having to do with movies small enough that can't get visibility any other way.

But a big budget Star Wars release, or really any major release? LOL... those are as bulletproof as a Presidential Limo. Trailers have far more influence in if someone is going to go see a movie or not.

 

Yikes. To provide a comparison.

Justice League

3-day OW: $93.8 million.
4-day OW: $101.3 million.

JL didn't have the benefit of opening on the prime holiday weekend of the summer, and the amount spent on budget + marketing was likely far less for JL.

So basically... Star Wars, in 6 short months, has gone from the pre-eminent IP... to being on par with the DC Universe.

Great Job Kathleen and Rainy!

Tell us more about how we're sexist, dumb, and you need to destroy cherished characters just to be able to create...

There is one thing I would like to point out, and its to all the 'progressives' out there. Take note that it is incredibly easy to destroy stuff you don't like(and those people do so because they're usually incredibly bad at creation), presumably to make way for stuff you will like, but there is no guarantee that having done so, someone else(Marvel)… who can do that stuff... won't fill the void and eat your lunch.

This applies all the way to the blowing up of institutions like Hollywood via the #metoo movement and what not. It seems like the one constant as this decade is coming to a close along with the motif of the ST is the willingness to tear stuff down(TFA - Death and Destruction, Rogue One - Death and Destruction, TLJ - Even more Death and Destruction), but something else you weren't expecting and may not like, may just take its place.

In the end, the only thing you may end up tearing down is yourself.
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Deadline Monday update:

 

A good writeup of the numbers:

Of particular note:

Solo did worse in its first weekend internationally than JOHN CARTER. Just wow.

It also pointed out that Solo has a good shot making less money in its full run, than Rogue One did domestically.

 

I do feel sorry for him (no bad intention or trolling). Really loved Apollo 13 so much.

 

Wall Street Journal - ‘Solo,’ Newest ‘Star Wars’ Installment, Off to a Slow Start

https://www.wsj.com/articles/solo-newest-star-wars-installment-off-to-a-slow-start-1527534820

 

To summarize:


Yea... there's no getting around that this is a bomb, and an unfortunate one at that.

However, that being said the amount of hyperbole in this thread is ridiculous. Memorial day is historically the worst holiday for domestic releases. People go to the beach with their holiday, they don't sit inside watching movies. This release should be a lesson in hubris to all movie studios that even the mightiest franchise will not top the urge to hit the waves in the first weekend of summer. KK is not losing her head over this though. She'll get a dressing down undoubtedly, and we should expect some major shake ups in what the plans were for the franchise, but overall things will probably remain on track. Ep IX is still happening, Eps X-XII are probably happening also. We're still getting stand-alone films most likely, and we're still going to get cartoons and the tv show. Everything is still same....

.... except for Kenobi and Boba Fett, those are probably getting the axe, thank god.

Also, the typical "Reeeee TLJ killed the franchise," is as obnoxious and misplaced here as it is everywhere else.

 

Just another in a long list of bone-headed decisions made by Lucasfilm execs. However, this whole movie was doomed from the start. They should have pushed it back to December. They should have never hired Lord and Miller. The advertising has been inconsistent and and started way too late.

 

Solo did worse in the countries not celebrating Memorial Day weekend than in the one that was.

 

This was Disney's call and they chose Mary Poppins over Solo for that release.

He's right and tickets sales were up 24% for the weekend. The problem is a lot of people went to see Deadpool and Avengers.

 

SAVAGE. lol.

Wow.. that was a legit takedown in one sentence hah.

Solo, in Disney's eyes, is positioned to act as a cinematic firebreak for TLJ. TLJ lit Lucasfilm on fire, and their hope being that it contains that fire and helps burn it out, in order to clear things out for 9. Hence, giving 9 as wide a berth as possible and holding to the original release date for Solo.

You sure you haven't time-travelled from 1976 there pal? This was the traditional view(and really.. who goes to the beach for Memorial Day in 2018? BBQ yes. Family stuff... yes? Beach-going as a family hasn't been a thing since the mid-to-late 20th century when people got air conditioning and didn't need relief from the heat at the beach).

Why did it change? A little movie called STAR WARS was released Memorial Day Weekend 1977 and established that weekend as a prime release weekend. That movie, along with JAWS two years previous, established the traditional summer window for blockbuster releases. Until apparently 41 years later, a follow-up Star Wars movie called solo Killed It #sarcasm. No.. now apparently having a prime weekend in summer for your film to be released is a LIABILITY. Just lol #facepalm.

In general, if your movie costs $400 million and comes in the wake of a movie in TLJ that poisoned the well for Star Wars, you have a lot bigger problems than your release date.
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lol Kid I'm just gonna post box office numbers for memorial day weekend. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/md.htm The record memorial day weekend haul is Pirates of the Caribbean At World's End, another movie which flopped spectacularly with only a 138mil opening haul on this supposed "great holiday weekend for movies." That was in 2007. Since then that number has only decreased as the trend over the past decade and a half has been returning to the beach. Yes, that even applies to countries that "don't celebrate memorial day weekend," because even there they've heard of this little thing called "summer," and the last weekend of May is still considered the first weekend of the season of revelry.

Now I know you're going to try to dissuade my statistical proof with more of your supposed profound knowledge of modern culture, but I'm kind of thinking it might just be your personal narrative that you use to justify why you haven't seen the sun in a long while.

Edit: Also, another fun fact look at #7. Wow, Memorial day weekend sure is a great time for movies.