A question unanswered In The Last Jedi.

No it didn't.

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Yep.
The force was calling her and trying to send her to Luke ASAP.

 

Obi-Wan being related her doesn’t really do anything at this point and doesn’t really say anything. If you wanted Rey Kenobi to work, just say I am Rey Kenobi in TFA.

The only thing that would still work in IX is if Rey was a Skywalker after all. The only way that works if she accepts it but doesn’t believe that matters or that’s what makes her a good Jedi. If they did this it would not undermine TLJ’s themes.

There is a big continuity problem. If Rey’s parents died on Jakku why did she see them fly away in a space ship? If her parents were drunk dealers why in the book did they say they’d "come back for you sweetheart?"

 

Luke's teachers. Yoda and Obi Wan. It showed how Rey role in the shape of things was linked to that of Luke.

 

I was wondering if we would get an answer as to why Rey hears Obi-wan's voice in TFA in The Last Jedi, but we unfortunately we didn't. At this point I just think she heard Obi-wan because she is connected to the force and the lightsaber she touched was in Obi-wan's possession for many years, unless episode 9 gives us some other explanation.

Another question that we walked away with in The Force Awakens that was not answered in TLJ was how Maz had Anakin/Luke's lightsaber in the first place.
Maz: "I've had this for ages. Kept it locked away. "
Han: "Where'd you get that? "
Maz: "A good question. For another time."

Now would be a great time to tell us Maz

 

I agree. Yoda and Obi-Wan were both Luke's teachers. We didn't hear any other Jedi like Mace Windu or Qui-Gon Jinn. Only those tied to the Skywalkers.
Interesting point that only Obi-Wan calls her name.

I was disappointed this movie dropped this part of the story. I hope Episode 9 picks it up. Maybe we'll see Obi-Wan!

 

Unless I’m mistaken only Obi-wan, Yoda, and Qui-gon Jinn have been mentioned to able commune from the netherworld of the force as Yoda mentioned in the end of RotS. So I don’t think there was a whole lot of options. Unless the force vision is totally unrelated to them personally, but as you mentioned Obi-Wan mentioned her name.

As for Maz, I was bummed not to find out the answer to where she got it as well.

 

The TFA ended with the goal of finding Luke and bringing him back. Rey expected a Legend who could do anything. That is exactly where TLJ picked up. There is no disconnect. The TFA was about getting their. TLJ was learning why he was gone, facing despair for everyone and Luke who has always been at the core hope gave hope to the Resistance and thus the galaxy so that there can be a true rebirth.

 

"Difficult to see. Always in motions is the future."

Pretty much describes the way this trilogy has gone so far. The future isn't set, it isn't written, whether literally or metaphorically . It's getting filled out as we speak, with old and new ideas being bandied around with most being discarded and some sticking.

JJ through a lot of spaghetti at the wall... and in fairness to RJ, he had a ton of questions to answer, some were bound to be left by the wayside, or at least suspended as he tried to build his story. I think it'll be up to JJ and his team to answer a lot of those question in IX.

 

Well, maybe it will be answered in Episode 9.

 

What, with absolutely no wiggle room after TFA filming ended or upon release?

 

Disney is not going to falter on their plan. I don’t think that they will hold off on Rian’s trilogy. They were expecting backlash, but so many people do like the film, let’s not forget about that. They’ ll stick to their guns and let Star Wars grow the way it should.

 

I hope so, I like the direction it’s heading.

 

Did she get it during a trade dispute? I sort of tuned out during that part the 3 times I saw TLJ.
For some reason I don't think there will be time in Episode 9 to tell where Maz got the lightsaber.
Maybe that will be revealed in the Han Solo movie or the next non-trilogy movie.

 

I get the impression that JJ started a bunch of mysteries and then RJ and JJ talked and JJ assured RJ that he'd handle most of what he started in the final act.

I don't expect they'll outright retract anything, but I think most of the loose threads or unanswered questions will be dealt with in episode 9. It will cause division again, but some fans make be welcomed back into the fold while some who are happy now will be disappointed.

 

LFL will have a main story arc all figured out. The directors of these movies will follow that arc throught from start to finish. However, as JJ and RJ have both stated, they were both responsible for their own creativity over their own instalment.

To me this means that they follow the main blue print set by LFL with everything else being open to suggestion.....ie, the 'less important' parts of the story.

Although we, the fans, are very keen to know who Rey's parents are, where Snoke came from, etc, it obviously wasn't a major plot point of those last two movies.

Hopefully JJ will adress most of the fan desired plot points and these currently unsolved mysteries in lX when it (hopefully) becomes important to the story.

Great point though

 

As pointed out in the post you responded to, TFA ended with lots of unanswered questions. Why Luke secluded himself on the island was one of many. Few were answered. We still don't know who Snoke is. We still don't know who the Knights of Ren are. We still don't know Maz's connection to the lightsaber. We still don't know how the First Order came into existence. We still don't know why and how Kylo turned? We DO know who Rey is, and her backstory (if you can even call it that) contradicts her force vision in TFA. The failure to answer so many question is a travesty of epic proportions and explains the severe fan backlash. Quite simply, this was a terrible, disjointed and often times pointless story by Rian. Disney decided it wanted to turn a buck by cranking out movies quickly instead of treating the source material with a little more reverence. I wish a Christopher Nolan or Peter Jackson had been hired to write and direct the trilogy. Perhaps then we would have ended up with a cogent story line with a deeper meaning.

 

It truly amazes me how caught up fans are in the notion that we get answers for everything. The OT left a lot of questions that weren’t answered until Lucas decided to create a whole new trilogy. Leaving things ambiguous sparks conversation and allows us to use our imaginations. As for the things many seem to be upset that was not answered in TLJ, let’s go through them.

1. How Maz got the lightsaber. While that might be an interesting story, it is completely unimportant to the overall story and our characters. If you want to know what JJ initially intended for the light saber and its backstory (including how Maz gotnit) go back and read some of MSW’s early reports about the flashback scene before JJ changed it. Once JJ changed course, how Maz got the saber was unimportant. That is why when Han asks how she got it she dismissively tells him it is a story for another time. There was no need for Rian to take time out of his story to address this. This info is really unimportant to the story moving forward

2. Who is Snoke? Once again a very interesting question. Once again not necessary information for the story to move forward. Rian even compared his lack of backstory to the Emperor in the OT before the movie came out. Why is anyone surprised that we did not get a backstory to Snoke The important thing about Snoke is that he is the character that helps develop and propel the real villain of the ST, Kylo ren. Trust me, Lucasfilm is going to give us the story of Snoke at some point. Likely in a novel or comic.

3. Speaking of Kylo, how did Kylo turn dark? Once again an interesting question. One in which we got a partial answer to this in TLJ. We got more of an answer to this then we did about how Anakin became Vader in the OT. So I hope all those complaining about this also complain about ROTJ not giving us more backstory on Vader. Once gain, we got just what we needed to know about Kylo to continue his character arc and move the story forward. I’m pretty sure we will learn more about snoke’s and Ben’s relationship in whatever type of story we get for Snoke.

4, How did Rey get so powerful? We got an answer to this. Snoke told us. People are just not accepting it. That is their prerogative. However, the Force choosing someone in the light to counterbalance the dark is not much different then a story about the Force creating a child in response to the dark.


The most important question in TFA was where is Luke and why did he exile himself? Where Luke was was answered at the end of TFA. Why he exiled himself was definitely answered.

I don’t get the argument that TLJ disregarded TFA. It didn’t. It stuck with the main theme from TFA and built on the characters from TFA. What it disregarded was information that fans thought were vitally important but actually not important for the story to move forward. It was not much different from the OT in the fact many things were left in answered. The only difference is people seem to want to Vhlor about it now.

 

We know as much about Snoke as we knew about the Emperor in ROTJ.
We know as much about the rise of the 1st Order as we did about the Empire.
Though people have always mistakenly assumed that Snoke is the Big Bad. Turns out he is part of Kylo's back story. It will make an interesting novel when the time comes but Snoke like the original Emperor were archetypal characters we know them without knowing the details.

Kylo steadily disturbed and worried all the adults whom cared for him over the years. Leia saw it became afraid and hoped Luke could reach him. Luke trained him and over that time was left with the sense that Kylo was evil and would go on to do terrible things. Its all in the context of the films. Kylo was still a student (apparently a troubled one) who woke to find his Uncle looming over him with a sabre. He fought back not just against Luke but the other students who would not leave with him. Those that left with him might very well be the KOR.

The Forceback was confusing and subjective I would suggest if you see a contradiction you believe it said something that it wasn't trying to say. I mean its the same film that people saw a rusty curtain rod staff and assumed it was the lightsabre of a billionaire banking family.

 

They left and came back? The ship didn’t leave the system? They died on another desert world?

The sweetheart line always made me think they were forced to leave her. Looking at it now, it’s likely the kind of thing an ar$ehole parent would say when abandoning their kid and wanting them to not make a fuss. Or it never happened and was just in her head?

 

Agreed, and Maz doesn’t tell us, but Han Solo, that it’s a story for another time. And he’s not around anymore, so...