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SPOILER About that Object In Space...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by sbs87, Mar 26, 2015.

  1. sbs87

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    Yeah I think they botched that and the saber should have landed away from him in the room maybe. They probably tried to fix it with the EU story.
     
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    I agree. I always think some eu scenes should fill in the mystery of a weapon suddenly appearing again.
     
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    I have concluded after watching this scene that

    1) Palpatine is underrated as a duelist he kills three jedi counsel members in what a minute, why did Yoda think he could take him alone. Should have both gone after the Emperor and waited on Anakin.

    2)If any lightsabers survive to episode VII is has to be in order of likelihood

    1. Lukes green saber he gives to someone
    2. Mace Windus
    3. Palpatine
    4. Luke's blue saber
    5. Vaders red saber
     
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    From a writers standpoint Luke's green saber makes the most sense to use as "The Sword" because you can go anywhere you want with the story.

    How the F is Kit Fisto just going to go out like that??? Dumb.
     
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    Or he could have i don't know reached out with the force and called it to him. He was the one of the most powerful force user alive and possibly ever. I'm pretty sure he could have pulled a Luke Skywalker in the Wampa cave from an extreme distance.
     
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    I guess that isn't ridiculous...not as ridiculous as free falling 800 feet into a speeder....oh the PT
     
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    What about Obi Wan's saber?
     
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    Maybe ....No one knows what happened to it and it is blue like the concept art.

    The EU version went like this after Vader took it...

    "The lightsaber fell into Darth Vader’s possession, who stored it in his personal retreat on Vjun as a trophy. After the Jedi Order was recreated under Luke Skywalker, several of his students, led by Tionne Solusar and Ikrit, arrived at Bast Castle to search for relics and artifacts contained within. Their arrival coincided with the efforts of Orloc, a false Darksider who relied on technological gimmicks to convincingly mimic Force abilities. While the Jedi found Kenobi’s lightsaber and the Asli Krimsan's holocron first, Orloc managed to steal both in the subsequent encounter, threatening Ikrit with the lightsaber. However, Orloc’s unfamiliarity with the many passages and traps of Bast Castle nearly got him killed, and allowed the Jedi to reclaim the lightsaber and the holocron."
     
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    Obi wan's would be a possibility and as the EU story, which looks a lot like the concepts for Kylo Ren by the way including the encounter at the castle, illustrates we have zero idea of what happened to it after Vader defeated him. Also if a lightsaber were to hold secrets his would be a good one to guess. He never lost his lightsaber and it seems like a good place to store a secret.
     
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    Well Palpi didn`speak to good of lighsabers at all in Jedi so this Yoda in Empire and George Lucas words leave me in doubt that there is anything special about them.




    and they aren`t indestructible, watch the factory scene in aotc
     
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    Or maybe he got one of his shadow guards to fetch it.
     
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    As far as I know, the lightsaber-in-space thing remains an unverified rumor, which means it is probably untrue (i.e. by statistical probability, most rumors are untrue). Still, to entertain the thread’s idea, I’ll play along with the speculation :)

    Why does the lightsaber have to be Vader’s or Luke’s? What if it belongs to an entirely new character? That would open up a spanking new backstory to weave into the ST. It is unlikely that TFA/OT will be singularly a connecting dots and old plot threads kind of show, and they are certain to introduce new plots. So what if, assuming the rumor is true, the lightsaber belongs to someone else completely, which would be a very efficient way of introducing that plot early (with exposition offered a few scenes later).

    EDIT: The idea that it is Ben’s lightsaber is a really interesting idea too :)
     
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    I always figure Palps had his sabre up his sleeve in ROTJ. He wanted to punish and torture Luke driving his hatred making him susceptible to falling to the dark side. If he whipped out his sabre and used it Luke would be dead. He did not suspect Vader no need to pull it out to deal with him. Luke predicted correctly his over confidence was his undoing. Vader was not fully under his control as Sheeve thought.
     
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    ...i just had an different thought on everything...so JJ is known as a "master" in confusion/mystery/whatsoever...so it came to my mind...maybe the floating saber thing is for real not the first scene but the last...it may make more sense somehow...maybe everything is the other way around lol...well i guess not, im staying real...but the lightsaber scene as a hook up for the next movie would make more sense to me if u ask me...

    ...but whats the story then...if no lightsaber gets "everything to roll"...?...i dont know...but i will think of it...nuff said, peace out! :)
     
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    Im amazed how the main focus of a object in space is a lightsaber.
     
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    ..well, ya...but thats everything we heard so far...its all about a lightsaber, its burnt in our heads...im not buying it 100% yet but who knows...if they got a great reason then its ok...if its just bcause someone collecting it it seems a bit boring...so if nothing very very important is stored in it i would find it boring for 3 new films to start...if its just a side-kick to find luke (cause its his) then its ok for me...i want to see luke in action once again...hes the hero for f...sake...i mean, if not him who then? sorry im going a bit off board here will stop now :-D
     
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    ...he was the hero (past tense)...

    Let it go Elsa......Let it go.....j/k

    There's supposed to be a new generation of "hero(s)" hence the new cast.

    But I do hope Luke will have an a$$ kicking moment.
     
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    yes i know...but there is still potential for his character...i hope for the best :)
     
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    Good point, which isn't brought up enough. What if it's Luke's green saber? He tossed it to the side after he'd disarmed Vader and is not shown picking it up again. Maybe it went out the window when DS2 blew up. For that matter, why can't it be Obi-Wan's saber from ANH. It falls to the ground when Vader cuts him in half and that's the end of it. Cases for each:

    - Anakin/Luke saber: Would tie all three trilogies together and make a "unified macguffin" situation that could play into future installments that you know Disney is going to make. So, episode X could be a thousand years in the future and things get weird and Obi Don Bon Jovi Skydancer goes back to his safe deposit box to retrieve the saber and save the day.
    - Luke's Green Saber: This was the first saber constructed by the new line of Jedi after the fall of the old order and was used to destroy the Sith and end the oppression of the Empire or whatever. The Anakin/Luke blue one was used to try and murder Anakin's master and it slaughtered a ton of younglings and other good guys. So it's got that going for it, which is nice.
    - Obi-Wan Blue Saber: Sort of dropped off the map after ANH. Symbol of the Jedi still working behind the scenes after their fall, so there's an eternal flame quality there, plus Vader could have just pitched it out of an airlock at any point and the Death Star moved around, so that could negate the "travelling interstellar distances in 30 years" problem if it's shown that Vader trashed it at a certain spot.

    Hope you like my first post!
     
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    The hilt of a lightsaber should survive an atmosphere reentry. Imagine the temperature of the laser beam itself, in order for a Jedi to hold the weapon without burning his hands, the metal used for the hilt must be extraordinary resistant.

    As for it to end up on a planet...

    Well, if falling from an exploding ship, not far from a planet's gravity... or maybe... a Lightsaber, as a Jedi weapon is connected to The Force and "finds its way" somehow... like an intelligent weapon.

    What if a lightsaber is built that way... when lost... to find a way to end up in the hands of a Force Sensitive....
     
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