SPECULATION Are they twins??

I used to think Kylo Ren was a son of Han. For some reason, I changed my mind. Maybe its too obvious, too played out, too something. Or maybe its just not JJ Abrams enough. I am looking for a story twist, involving Ren, and I don't think its going to be that he is the son of Han. Or maybe he is and I am too informed with all of these spoilers. I absolutely do not believe that he and Rey are siblings, let alone twins. They may be cousins, but I am sold on Rey is the daughter of Skywalker, the granddaughter of Anakin.

 

If you step back from the spoilers and speculation, I think Kylo being Han and Leia's son will be a big twist for general audiences. Another thing to keep in mind is that the revelation may come sooner than we expect in the story and it is more about the drama of knowing who he is rather than the reveal. I think Rey being Luke's daughter rather than Han and Leia's (which they might tease us with throughout the story) will be the big reveal in the third act.

 

Please explain his status as a "double-agent."

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I do think that I may be "too spoiled." But I also know JJ Abrams, and this just seems too obvious.

 

Khan was also very obvious and yet he still tried to make it a twist. And like I said, I don't think who Kylo really is is going to be the main twist. I think they are going to be hinting that Kylo and Rey are brother and sister and then reveal that she is Luke's daughter, which leaves a lot more questions than Kylo's reveal will.

 

No.

 

who rey and finn? Something tells me no.

 

I don't think Khan was super obvious to the general audience. I only knew about it because it was spoiled online. I'm not a big trek guy. Since Kahn went by a different name and was a different race, what, in the movie made it super clear he was Kahn beforehand?

Similarly, if Kylo is Han's son, none of us will be surprised, but i think most in the theaters will be.

 

Who said abandoned?

1- Crashed and thought dead
2- In hiding
3- On a mission
4- Got sick of being Admiral Han and Queen Leia's over protected daughter so she ran away wanting to get into exciting adventures like her pirate scoundrel father who has become "a nice man."

Yes they are all partially cloned from the abundant DNA source they have.

 

Why not but it's not very original.

 

Neither is a peasant farmer getting his father's sword from an old knight and the set out to save the kingdom.

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Thanks my speculation is that Rey and Ren are Solo kids. Ren was talked about as an "imperial aristocrat" months back. I think they assumed aristocrat meant empire. Rather than the son of a Queen and a General. So Ren is the aristocrat relic hunter with the vader relic quest. He was given almost everything he wanted spoiled rotten but Mom and Dad can't stop the fighting . . . the Galaxy needs an iron fist. He turns traitor. Rey on the other hand, she is younger and sheltered. She is Han's little princess. She's heard the stories but she is raised in a bubble. She wants to matter, she wants to contribute like her parents did. So she steals the Falcon runs away and gets stuck on Jakku.

Pure speculation but last time checked it fills in part of what we don't think we know about the movie.

 

Considering the poll, it doesn't look like a real twist.

 

I'm talking about casual viewers, not spoiler hounds.

 

This movie will be for fans ! We're on the wait since 1983 !!

 

It's true the casual viewer wouldn't have known, but the casual viewer also didn't know or care who Khan was anyway, which was a big problem with the film. The reveal was for Trek fans, but Trek fans already figured it out and no one else knew why it mattered that his identity was hidden. But there were hints for Trek fans (and people like me who know characters like Khan but aren't "huge" Trek fans) in the trailers, like a very similar outfit design element to Wrath of Khan, the fact that the character Carol Marcus was in the film, and other Wrath of Khan references that I can't remember right now. But I still don't think the casual fan will immediately think Kylo is Han's son unless they have heard the rumors.

When I said Khan was obvious, I meant for people trying to find a twist. My point to Darth Nole was that the casual viewer won't likely jump to Kylo being Han and Leia's son unless they have been spoiled by guesses online.

 

Don't forget the main quote : There has been an awakening !

This means that the force wasn't there for some people before that awakening and we can suppose that if Rey was related she would be born force sensitive and so Kylo Ren etc ...

My english isn't good enough to really see the difference betwenn : There has been an awakening and there had been an awakening. But I feel like this awakening is recent and it leads to think that the Force wasn't really strong before the start of EP VII.