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Casting, Racism, Sexism and Kathleen Kennedy

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Lock_S_Foils, May 14, 2017.

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  1. GingerByte

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    Those casting decisions are more the result of having the same casting director as GOT than KK I would say.
     
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    Really because the casting director for GoT doesnt just cast Brunettes but yes lets deny culpability for KK.

    Also what you expect me to believe the casting director fought with RJ over who to cast as Rose?

    You have a seriously over inflated view of how much power a casting director has.
     
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    Im on mobile right now so im trying my best here:p
    LF vs J Boyega: - http://movieweb.com/star-wars-force-awakens-all-white-cast/
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    Kelly Marie Tran: though this comes from a reddit post, by what ive heard of KK this doesnt seem too far fetched

    Can you give me a source that supports that claim about Daisy?

    Also I personally never ever heard of Adam Driver.... maybe because im not american but i guess jj really wanted him

    for some reason’ she keeps thinking white brunette women are the most ideal people to get the roles. Even if she’s doing it unconsciously, it doesn’t change the fact that’s racism and excludes women of color.
    She seems very passionate when she talks about rey and jyn but when Kelly came in stage on swc, nothing. She was saying how glorious Rey is but not one single word about Kelly. She talks about this “girl power” a lot but when it’s about races, ethnicities and diversity she doesn’t say anything? It’s always the directors who sat next to her who speak about it, or actors of color themselves. Her "girl power” only involves white women and yet she said star wars represented the world.
     
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    race is actually one of the biggest things. Casting usually goes like this: actors are submitted, then the CDs whittle them down to bring them in for auditions. Then they finally hold screen tests and then cast with a deal memo/contract. If they dont cast you because of your race it's because they're going for a specific look. I'm sure you know that TFA's leads were written without gender/race, right?
     
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    You are picking and choosing from what I said.

    TFA was littered with GOT actors, and Emilia Clarke gets cast in the Han Solo. I never said the casting director had an agenda, just that it's not surprising Emilia Clarke is in the Han Solo film.
     
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    I don't think you understand how movies work at all. :\

    British actors and actresses are definitely more in demand than actors from any other country. Mostly because of the way they are trained. Also because America loves anything and everything British. The most popular actors working atm are more often than not British.

    Emilia Clarke is by far the most popular actress to come out of GOT. The other most popular female actress is Sophie Turner who got cast as Nebula in the Guardians of the Galaxy movies.

    He had Girls, Inside Llewyn Davis, Steven Speilberg's Lincoln. Also, Adam Driver was J J Abrams pick.
     
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    youre getting confused. that's the job of an EP typically. Producers are in charge of making sure the movie gets made regardless of trouble. Casting confirmations are really built on gut feeligns of the producers and teh casting directors at the end of the day and KK probably just happened to like who was ultimately cast.
     
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    Did you just quote a Reddit post to support your statement?

    I'm sorry but that's hilarious.
     
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    well to be fair, their job is ltierally the agenda .
     
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    Oh I am sorry does Britain only have White Brunettes in their acting pools?

    I would assume not considering we don't just get white dudes from Britain but gee correct me if I am wrong.

    My point about Clarke is talent....a Star Wars movie about Han Solo doesn't need Clarke to but behinds in the seat.

    He was most known for Girls. Good point on Davis...No one cared about him in Lincoln.
     
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    No, but white brunettes are the most common actors.

    White skinned actors are the most common, and most people have brown hair.
     
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    where else are you gonna get fan theories? :p
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    she's also a bigger name that will sell more tickets on top of being talented .
     
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    Lol the idea that Clarke is going to give Star Wars a boost worth noting. She made Terminator profitable right.....oh wait...the era of the action star in Hollywood is pretty dead and Clarke is not changing that. She is no Will Smith at his height or Tom Cruise or The Rock.

    you going to counter the talent argument? someone going to argue Clarke is the better talent then Tessa or Kravitz...I am waiting on that one.
     
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    Don't have to.

    She's more popular, more in demand and definitely more successful.

    Case closed.
     
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    I've already given a reason as to why Emilia Clarke had a higher chance of being chosen.
     
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    Yes so do I...KK is biased in favor a certain type of actress.

    1) Prove Movie Stars Actually Matter.
    2) Prove Clarke is actually a draw.


    I got Terminator as a flop. What have you got to justify your position that Clarke is draw who can noticeably impact Star Wars Box Office?
     
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    shes bigger than the other actors. She will have her millions of fans watching on top of us. You're right that shes not them but this movie will only help to boost her profile
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    Her audition process was two years long as compared to John Boyega's seven months.

    PS: Don't use reddit posts to back up your claims. It works against your credibility.
     
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    My math says that is 0.5 Years. Of Course, I more interested in the number of auditions. Assuming they did an actual global search you gotta figure a lot of that was dead time for Daisy.

    How many fans of Game of Thrones do you think aren't going to watch Star Wars?
    How many of those fans do you think are only going because Clarke is in it?

    Dont worry its not just a Clarke problem...RDJ and Chris Evans do great in MCU movies outside not so hot.

    I say only Leo and The Rock have shown lately to have reliable Box Office Star Power. Clarke aint on that level and is extremely unlikely to ever get close.

    My main point stands the idea that Clarke is going to move the dial for Star Wars is patently absurd.
     
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    True. But there's a greater chance of her benefitting the movie franchise than any of the other actresses you named.
     
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