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Confirmed! Ep.8 begins right after TFA.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Suspicious Moon, Dec 22, 2015.

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Will Episode VIII really begin right after VII?

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  2. No

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  1. Greg Kirby

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    These movies follow the same lazy arch types as 4 5 and 5..
     
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    1. You have only seen 1 of the 3 movies coming out.
    2. This thread is about something that has never been done in Star Wars before.
     
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    Brick is a pretty good film, but Looper? It's so stupid. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because writing a Star Wars isn't the most difficult thing to do, but I'm not expecting anything out of the usual.
     
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    Here's a crazy thought:
    What if it begins where TFA left off (literally) but then Rey is being trained just like with Yoda and Luke Skywalker in ESB and Rey leaves to go save her friends just like he did in ESB except this time he goes with Rey so he won't lose her training and then they become sort of like Anakin Skywalker/Obi-Wan Kenobi in AOTC & ROTS .
     
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    A theory that I've had ever since watching TFA was that Luke will need to convince Rey to become a jedi. When Luke is denied multiple times by Rey, he decides to lie to Rey about Kylo Ren and says something that gets Rey nice and ticked off, which leads to her decision to train with Luke. She trains with Luke and becomes extremely powerful in the force. When (if) she and Kylo Ren face off, she annihilates him again. Kylo Ren pleads to Rey that whatever Luke told her about him is wrong. Just when she is about to kill him, Luke steps in and stops her. Luke admits he lied. Rey's mind is scrambled and she doesn't know what to do.

    That's as far I can think of for Rey's scenes. The fact that VIII will take place right after TFA is great because 1) we will most likely see the first words exchanged between them. 2) The reveal on who she is. 3) A tightly knitted timeline with lots of events.

    I just hope the flow is so perfect that you can combine the movies and not even realize they are two separate movies.

    Can't wait for VIII
     
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    “Me and Mark have been rehearsing a lot, and it’s really amazing,” Ridley told MTV News on the Oscars red carpet Sunday (February 28). “When we went back to Skellig to do the opening of [Episode] VIII, it was so crazy doing the same scene with a different crew of people. He’s amazing to rehearse with, and I’m very excited to be doing the rest of the stuff.”​

    For me, the suggestion that Episode VIII starts with the scene of Rey meeting Luke supports for me the idea that Luke is Rey's father. The reveal of Rey's parentage needs to be done on screen, but I could not see Luke training Rey for two or three years (which would probably be the case if the movie started with a time jump) and only then telling Rey that he is her father.

    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 1, 2016, Original Post Date: Mar 1, 2016 ---
    Something like Ben is responsible for killing Han? Or something like Ben is working for the First Order which has just destroyed millions if not billions of people on Hosnian Prime? I do not think that Luke needs to lie about Ben to make Rey realize that Ben needs to be stopped.

    I agree that she was reluctant to leave Jakku. However, Luke had similarly chosen to withdraw to Ahch-to and to stop training Padawans. There might be reasons why either of them is still hesitant to start training, but, if anything, I think it will be Luke who needs to convinced. I think that the fight between Ben and Rey made Rey embrace her destiny of becoming a Jedi.
     
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    While I'm still not convinced that Luke is her father, I completely agree that if anyone needs convinced about Rey being trained it will be Luke. Luke has tried and failed already. Betrayed by his own blood and has disappeared for xx number of years. He has likely been scarred from these events and might be hesitant to try again. On the other hand though if Luke has during his time of deep meditation on Ach-To discovered that he must train the one who finds him in order to bring balance back to the Force, Insuspect he would so willingly.

    As for Rey, she has already accepted her destiny to train and become a Jedi by going to find Luke. There is a passage at the end of the book Rey's story where she discusses with Leia the decision she has to make in whether to go seek out Luke to learn more about the ways of the Force and become a Jedi.
     
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    just a quick point, could this be interpreted as the "opening" of filming for VIII or was there clarification that she actually meant they shot the opening of VIII.

    if i was stretching, I could interpret that both ways. :p

    anyway, if it is actually the opening of the movie, which is probably the most likely scenario, this could mean a few things. Firstly, I could see the crawl being heavily centered around the resistance/first order war and then something is mentioned about rey and luke having to join the battle at a crucial moment. I think we have to remember that without the republic, systems and planets are going to have to take sides again. It's chaos, thus i could see a heavy focus on this. Secondly, if rey is actually not a skywalker at all, and Kylo is actually a huge focus in VIII, could this mean a very kylo/snoke centered crawl and or movie. In fact, if rey and luke is the very opening of this movie, I could see the next scene actually going to Kylo/Hux landing on Snoke's ship to parallel both force users returning to their masters.

    If you combine this news with the rewrite and the idea rey et al. is actually going to feature more, it also makes me wonder if they open the movie with luke returning to leia quite quickly and the training happens as the movie progresses? This might actually tie into the idea that luke doesn't want to train rey the same way as kylo. So instead of actively training rey as a "no.2" he gives her important wisdom and guidance as they move throughout the main story line.
     
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    As much as I'd like Rey to be a Skywalker, why can't she be related but not a direct descendant ?
     
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    she could be, however KK's comments about the skywalker family story making up the episodic films does suggest a tighter/closer family line connection. Would you make a "skywalker" episodic film about new hero that is a 3rd cousin of a skywalker? Hence my previous suggestion in the family thread that the only options are

    1. Rey is a skywalker
    2. Kylo is actually the focus of the trilogy
    3. Luke is the "skywalker focus" of the trilogy
     
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    I meant like she's a Skywalker but not Luie Skywaker's daughter but who knows z
     
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    We may see that, but some form of time-jump will be present I believe. After all, Luke didn't actually trained for half an hour on Dagobah either. That's what I'm talking about.
     
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    Check it out, opening montage AND THEN the crawl!



    Original enough for ya...!
     
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    If Ahch-To island, Luke and Rey are the opening scene of VIII, then isn't the crawl going to be very very short? Or possibly a recap of what happened in VII?
     
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    Well they already took off the swipe edits so I wouldn't be too surprised if something similar to this happens .
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    Just watch...every opening crawl is about 3 paragraphs and this one will be one line .
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    Opening Crawl

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    Kylo Ren's shuttle approaches First Order fleet massing near <First Order Capital world>. Wounded Kylo Ren being loaded from the transport. Snoke's black robe blacks out the screen [cut]

    Rey extends the lightsaber to luke.

    etc.
     
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    Daisy said it was strange to shoot the same scene at Skellig with a different crew.

    But Luke looks great and his role is awesome this time around.

    So, I'm guessing no time lapse.

    Weird. For a Star Wars film.
     
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    It's like saying no swipes.

    Weird. For a Star Wars film.

    But really though, I hope it's not like we see the opening crawl and the cuts to Zach-To .
     
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    Daisy's interview gave me the impression that 8 picks up, right where the Marvel post-credit last scene left us.
     
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    I think it's possible, but I think Luke will go with her. Partly because he may think he could of saved Han this time.
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    How long were the others in Cloud City before Luke left to save them? 2-3 days? I hope Rey gets more training than that before they head back into the fray. So I'm with you. A series of scenes that shows her training and a progression which depicts more than a few days in time. Unfortunately no Star Wars movie has really done that. The events in the movies usually depicts a series of days rather than months.
     
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