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SPOILER Definitely NOT Luke Skywalker

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Marc Camel, Oct 16, 2014.

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    Not for nothing, but 100 people all quoting the same source do not lend weight to the rumor if all 100 people are quoting a bad source...

    The rumors for Adam stem from a post that says that Adam is playing a character in the same vein as Vader... what it does not go into is what it means by saying, "in the same vein". It could mean anything... it could mean he has mass potential but issues with anger and jealousy, it could mean that he is going to be used as a pawn by a much more powerful adversary... it could mean he will start by being played by a lovable and adorable but somewhat annoying actor... it could simply mean he has a penchant for wearing black... no explanation has been given, and people have run with it to mean what they are hoping for it to mean, and saying "this is 100%"

    As has been pointed out recently, we do not know how credible the sources are...

    Personally, I think the "Dark Knight" (just like the Zorro) reference lends to the character, not the role... Batman was an outlaw, and he did bad things... terrible things.. but he wasn't a bad person. He sacrificed himself for the safety of others to stick it to the bad guys... he did what he thought he had to do, damn the consequences to himself, trusting that he was always making right the champion of might

    Is "Zorro" also a reference to a Dark Side Jedi?

    Only because you guys are looking for the actor... these are concept art, look for the concept of the character

    Now that would be ultimate... the new evil empire being run by Jay and Silent Bob

    To be fair to Hayden (without being overly fair to the point of defending him) he had some pretty stiff dialogue to work with...

    Luke would fit both clues...

    I can see Luke having a son that falls to the dark side... what I can't see is Luke going into seclusion because of it... he overthrew an Empire to save his father, you are telling me he would run away for his son?

    I think Luke was in prison
     
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    You know what I haven't seen anyone at all consider?

    What if Luke is already dead?
     
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    And Mark Hamill is Force ghost Luke the whole time?!
    I call shenanigans.
     
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    lol, yes... more than likely not going to happen. that would suck. just wondering if anyone had a synopsis in mind for that scenario.
     
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    And the "Grave Robber" is his reanimated body... Daisy finds it in the Throne Room, and then the Force Ghost appears...

    "That's just a shell of what I was, brought back Vader's minions. I'm more machine now than man..."
     
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    I think you've got the Dark Knight wrong. Dark Knight trooper makes more sense in this world... But considering the names Dark knight, Grave robber Zorro, etc all come from the post I lead no credence to the names at all.
     
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    there ya go!
     
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    They come from the names of the files...

    The one of the burned helmet is called Zorro

    The ones with "the being" are at times called Grave Robber, and at times called Dark Knight

    I think these terms were used in character development to describe the character... Zorro and Dark Knight were pretty obvious, but the only character I can think of for Grave Robber is from the Genetic Opera... when Shilo goes to her mother's grave... "knowing of the dangers of the Repo Man caused by greed, then scorning people for letting grudges get out of control." He is the narrator, and also knows the secrets... can't seem to see how this would exactly fit in with Zorro (the avenger) and Dark Knight (bringer of justice)

    But I think they are not terms for the movie, I think they are concepts of character development...
     
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    Probably just production names like Kira, OW, AVCO, and Foodles.
     
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    Right... but the mean something... they weren't chosen at random...
     
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    there is usually a meaning to any names they pick
     
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    Foodles means something?
     
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    apparently so, lol...
    foodles-single_v2.png
     
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    Of course it's Mickey Mouse....
     
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    Yes and the Wampa also has a file name but is it named because it has wampa written on the page... it also has JK and sword. What is JK, the character name or Jedi Knight? I just don't see how Darth Vader's mask is a Zorro type thing except for it has a mask and "hat". We don't where the file name came from. I'd say its more of a production name to prevent someone finding the file. I mean who's looking for Zorro prop images vs who would look for VADER HELMET BURNED?

    I am not saying the idea you have of a Jedi going around like Zorro or Batman is a bad story idea... I just think it would be a better story for one of the Obi-wan movies that are rumored.
     
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    Just because things don't make sense to us, sitting here sifting through scraps, doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense... we must assume they are not idiots, that they have a method to their madness, and we don't know the full meaning behind it... but I do think there is a meaning, and if we are to glean any clues to this, we must go in to their process and try to sort it out...
     
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    I don't know why everyone seems to the cyborg or dark knight(s) character(s) might be Luke.....he grew a beard for this movie, which didn't make a lot of sense, if the bottom part of his face is mechanical.
     
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    "The mask can cover a beard"

    People say it is a smoke and mirrors thing. I still think the rumored production still of the Han/Luke/Driver face off doesn't favor the Luke is the one in the mask
     
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    But what about the moustache, wouldn't you be able to see that?
     
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    Ah-ha!
     
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