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SPECULATION Ep 8 lead character death scene

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by FallenAngel, May 25, 2016.

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    you think kylo kills luke or snoke?
     
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    I'm just throwing theories around here but... what if Hux is Luke's son? Suppose, for a moment, that Rey does turn out to be Luke's daughter. A lot of people have assumed that she was left on Jakku immediately before or immediately after Kylo's betrayal of Luke.
    However, Bloodline shows that Ben is still Luke's apprentice at the age of 23, meaning that given the age gap, Rey would have been a teenager if she was dropped off after Bloodlines.
    Which leads me to think that something else happened that forced Rey to be dropped off on Jakku, long before Ben became Kylo Ren.

    So my harebrained theory goeth thusly: Luke has two children, the elder of whom (Hux) is not Force Sensitive, the younger of whom (Rey) is. Brendol Hux and his Imperial remnant somehow discover this fact, and attempt to kidnap both Skywalker children. They successfully kidnap Hux and perform some brainwashing and mental conditioning on him until he honestly believes himself to be Brendol Hux's son: the proof-of-concept for the commandant's program to condition stormtroopers, rather than relying on cloning or conscription.

    Rey is not kidnapped for some reason or another, and her mother spirits her way to Jakku. Once off Jakku, Rey's mother suffers an accident that leads Hux and his followers to think that both Rey and her mother died. However, this happens before she can relay a message to Luke explaining what happened, and so Luke thinks his daughter is dead, explaining why he never went looking for her, and why Maz Kanata says that whoever Rey is expecting to come back to Jakku won't be coming back.

    Like I said, harebrained theory. But I would be tickled pink if something like this turned out to be true!
     
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    Uh I don't know... the script cites Hux’s age as being 34, that means he was born before the Battle of Endor. And right after the Empire signed the Galactic Concordance Brendol and his son "escaped" into the Unknown Regions. At that time Rey wasn't even born yet.
     
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    Which is why I said it was "harebrained." I knew Hux was around Ren's age, but I didn't know he was that much older.
     
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    Are we saying its a forgone conclusion that Rey is Luke's girl then at this point?
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    has some merit though
     
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    General Hux is Brendol Hux son, one of the First Order main creators.

    Wookiepedia entry: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Brendol_Hux
     
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    I've believed that to be the case since I first saw the movie. I went into the movie thinking that she was probably going to turn out to be Han and Leia's daughter, but I was convinced otherwise by the time Rey Force pulled the lightsaber.
     
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    well that settles it as long as your convinced. haha

    i agree though, i think theres lots of reasons to assume she is.
     
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    Not that I want to see it but I believe Luke Skywalker will be the next major character to pass, I envision it as more of a sacrifice to protect Rey (no matter her lineage) in what I assume will be a very emotional and brutally devastating light saber battle between Rey/Luke versus Kylo/Snoke ... I do wonder if Snoke dies also and the KoR led by Kylo are the real antagonists moving forward.
     
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    Killing off Luke/Leia in episode 8 would be ridiculous, it would start a tradition of "a main character must die for it to feel like a Star Wars movie" for the future.
     
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    i think and hope that it will be Luke. dont get me wrong i would love to see Luke in episode 9 but i just feel that the old characters are taking the attention away to much from the new chracters which i really like, both as characters and actors. the new cast deserves a movie all to themselves.
     
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    i think were going to see luke probably survive till the end, i hope lea dies in this one (she felt very old) and maybe even chewy gets it?
     
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    Don't get me wrong but I believe the main emotional draw will be Leia for Ben. So Leia feels old well she is, and Chewbacca is is over 200 years old. Leia is the one person I personally believe will shift this trilogy emotionally for Ben Solo (who as of now is the Skywalker "heir) Kylo or Ben and Snoke are both dead set on finding Luke Skywalker, you don't set that up as filmmakers the way they did and not have a reason for that. Luke Skywalker will die either in Episode VIII or Episode IX; I assure you he will do so passing the torch of the Jedi to Rey. This trilogy is not about Luke Skywalker as much as some want to think it's but Rey and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo. And anything or anybody who dies to push that narrative forward is pivotal. Han Solo dying was tragic, yet needed in that it show'd the depth of the characterization of Kylo Ren and his misguided anger and hatred for his father and how his trust in Snoke is foolish.
     
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    Agree. This is not Game of Thrones! LOL.
     
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    She's only 59 in real life. Character is probably a tad younger, given the time period that has passed. Generals generally live hard (and so did Carrie), give her a break on the age.
     
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    It is also worth mentioning that if Luke dies before IX then you must deal with the question of who is killing Snoke and how. Assuming Snoke is actually very, very old he is also very powerful. There is in my mind only1 character with the present capacity to defeat snoke and that is Luke and I think Snoke knows this. Kylo might become that person, but he does not have that ability yet. I do believe Luke will die, but it will be in IX
     
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    I understand what your saying but i believe that this is not a redemption story, Lea really was unnecessary once they had established that she had become general lea, and set up the han and her catch up and exposition.
    For me what her introduction did was generate an emotional build up before Han was killed.

    Kylo has proven himself now, he took the opportunity to rise above sentiment for both important family friends and key family members, (lor-sen-teka, han solo)
    his path is established, i don't see it as a "being lead astray" snoke seduction of kylo, kylo is wilfully a darksider, his struggle is against his family heritage that is inherently good (light side).
    when he question's Rey he refers to her friends i.e., the resistance, as a bunch of murders and thief's, this is an example of the distain he has for his father (the smuggler) and the resistance, who he see's as a resistance to order brought by the empire. his mother is the leader of the force he's been fighting for the last 15-20 years? a fact he will be very much aware of, though it has not stopped him. he is hunting her brother (to kill him) and every piece of information he gathers is to attack rebel strong holds likely to contain his mother.

    Lea should be killed i think in 8 to eradicate any chance of a redemption story, its to easy.
    kylo is a developed bad guy, with a real story arch, it diminishes his ascent if he turns it to a rebellious parent hating teen getting back at his parents.
    there's the opportunity her for a real new story of new fresh characters not a bunch of geriatrics, Laura Dern and Carrie Fisher in my personal opinion (and nothing against the actors) are a massive wrong direction, there turning the story inward into some top brass resistance story. when this should be massive in scale. they should also be bringing in young cast members to carry on the story, the main objective of 7 being to 1. pass the mantle while 2. showing the still existence of these characters in the broader universe. though the fact of there existence, doesn't mean its a story we the viewer need to follow.

    its not game of thrones i agree, but where we focus the story is important, she is kind of unnecessary in my opinion because its never a story i want to see them follow, and the only way they could make her relevant s at the expense of a new interesting bad guy - kylo ren.
    also some actors real become the character there portraying.

    kill lea!
     
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    Agree! I mean, if she was around 23 in ROTJ, she should be 53 by TFA.
     
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    I'm talking purely relative to the new younger cast being introduced. chill, I'm one of you. Hashtag #grannylove
     
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    Ackbar dies, he drowns in a bacta tank.

    Nien Nunb too, he swallows own tongue.
     
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