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Han Solo Spinoff

Discussion in 'Solo' started by BailEarnhardtJr, Jul 7, 2015.

  1. Sithwalker

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    Hey guys dont be so negative. Lets take Spock for example, his recast was perfect.. I really hope Anthony Ingruber takes the job since he looks like him, and can play Solo well!



    He also played younger version of Harrison Ford in Age of Adeline
     
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    I can't get behind this. I'd rather have a new character.
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    Yep.
     
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    I really don't get the love for this kid. He does a nice impression for like a party or something.... but he's too stiff and contrived. Solo/Ford is smooth and cool...relaxed....maybe that's because Ford IS Solo. I don't think this Anthony kid much looks the part, either. Ford is much more handsome and manly looking (yeah, I know this guy is young, but I don't mean "manly" in the youth sense).
     
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    The opinions on this seems to be divided into two camps:-

    1) Those who see this as good for the character- more info as to who he is, what he did before a new hope and what made him the character we know and love.
    2) Then there are those who see this as a dilution of the character. The Solo we know is pure gold and if we explore (create a backstory), we are tarnishing an icon.

    I don't think it's going to enrich the character at all. We'll just end up rethreading the same character arc and also probably doing damage to what we think of as Han Solo. I think it's also worth mentioning that Harrison Ford IS Han Solo and no recast could ever compete with that. This isn't like bond where you reboot the whole series every time you bring in a new actor, the character and the actor are intertwined.
     
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    I keep hearing that, and I don't agree. We've seen time and time and time and time again that you CAN recast "iconic" character and most of the GA will roll with it if the movie is good. Hardcore fans seem to have trouble understanding the notion that, just because they're fanatically devoted to this stuff, doesn't mean that your average moviegoer/casual fan is. And no, it won't be the "same character arc" since Han's "becoming a better man" arc doesn't even BEGIN until the end of ANH (and didn't really get going until ROTJ).

    Oh and until Daniel Craig came along, they had NEVER rebooted Bond. Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, and Brosnan were ALL part of the same continuity, so even that complaint doesn't work.
     
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    Of course they were rebooted. The series has been around since the 60s. There's no way it's all part of the same story. It makes absolutely no sense otherwise.
    The same criteria you've used to say that Daniel Craig's Bond is a reboot, is the same criteria I use for the rest of the Bonds. They are all soft reboots.
    You CAN recast Solo, but all they'd be doing is trying to act like Harrison Ford. They can't and won't do their own take on the character.
     
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    That's the problem. They SHOULD touch the prequel trilogy era. Not necessarily with movies, although I'm not apposed to it. But all forms of media. Besides Dark Disciples and the Maul comics, I can't think of prequel trilogy stuff that's canon that's been released since the deal with Disney. I don't see why the spirit of the old movies can't be brought into the prequel era.

    That would be awesome. But the thought across Disney must be, "Why take a risk when we have Solo?"
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    EDIT: Disney has ingrained so much story into a certain time span, that we immediately think the movie will be based on a 20-year Solo during "The Dark Times".

    What if this movie starts out before Order 66 and Han is just a young boy at the end of the Clone Wars? I'm not saying its what the fans want or its ideal. But it is possible that Han's jackassness stems back to his childhood. It would make casting Han a lot easier if he is a very different Han. We are just so programmed to the original trilogy and just before it that there is no room to "think outside the box".
     
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    I don't care who they get to play Han, I don't care who directs it, I don't care who the director of photography is, I don't care how practical the effects are, I don't care if Lucas himself wrote the story in 1975. I'm not watching it unless it is a CGI movie with Harrison Ford's likeness, or live action with an older Han in the role.

    Harrison Ford IS Han Solo and Han Solo is an icon.

    I am DISGUSTED at anyone who instantly starts discussing who else should play the role instead of protesting, you are not true Star Wars fans.

    I say this again.. if it is a live action film with someone else in the lead role, then Disney are officially the soulless, corporate, greedy, pandering, condescending company we all assumed them to be initially, and I will lose all respect for Kasdan.

    Call my hype for The Force Awakens or anything else SW-related officially dead in the water, until they announce that Harrison Ford's likeness will be used.
     
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    For what it's worth, Aaron Paul from Breaking Bad posted an Instagram screenshot that the official Star Wars twitter account is following him now.
     
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    If what you call protesting is having a fit on an internet forum and witch hunting for anybody who doesn't share your opinion, (with special guest appearance from the classic, "ur n0t tru f4n5 111!! one. Really original there) then you're doing a great job. Do I think a Han Solo movie is the best idea? Specifically, one where they recast Han Solo? No to both. But it can be done and they can make an entertaining movie out of it. Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with those movies, even though I've always loved Harrison Ford in the part, but this isn't the end of the world for me.
     
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    Pretty sure you could say that about any recast... then again we get Mad Max recast and its awesome. So it depends on the script the actor and what the director gets from both.
     
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    Fury Road is another soft reboot though. The character itself isn't exactly loaded with charisma either. Anyone could play him.
     
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    Oh i'm so incredibly pessimistic because I don't want Chris Pratt or Jai Courtney to play Han Solo.. Why have Star Wars fans got so soft? Was it the prequels? The Clone Wars? When did Star Wars fans cave in and start accepting everything with a Star Wars sticker slapped on it? Where is the passion?

    I'm out. Enjoy these mediocre Anthology films.. because they'll be far worse than the prequels.
     
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    It's the stuff of nightmares to be honest.
     
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    And I remember out rage about that idea being done... I remember the internet Frelling a collective brick about Daniel Craig, that turned out to be damn good casting. This is not any different IMO.

    And to everyone crapping on idea just because THEY can't imagine why the story is being told. You have a Kasdan story to back this movie. Kasdan. Even a bad kasdan story is good storytelling. If he thinks he has a good story to tell I bet its pretty good. If you can't add to the conversation then don't comment.
     
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    I think the movie will be good though, at least based upon the directors and writers. My issue is with the use of the character and not the quality of the the film. Harrison Ford is Solo for me and combine that with the idea of revealing more to the character, makes me resentful .


    Also, this is a discussion forum and with any discussion, people agree and disagree. If you want a Solo movie circle jerk, go create an appropriate thread.
     
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    I don't think most of the posters disagree that the movie will be a rousing financial success, Han Solo plus Star Wars = instant money with the general audience. Our problems are with whether or not the film is really needed. The general audience for movies in general keeps buying tickets for things like the Transformers franchise, so financial success is wildly different from actually making a good movie. Even if it is a good movie, many of us feel there are other far more interesting things they could be doing with the Anthology films.

    That being said, I do think we should try and keep a somewhat positive attitude, after all, if done well it could be a really good movie. Is there potential for it to suck, sure, but until we see it we wont know for sure. The fact is, Disney is definitely going this route, so now all we can do is wait and see. Its not wrong to feel somewhat disappointed, but don't let that turn into an overly pessimistic attitude about the whole thing.
     
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    Did I say I wanted a circle jerk? No I said ADD to the discussion. People saying "Its gonna suck Disney sucks etc etc" don't add to the discussion. That line wasn't about you it was about several of the other posts in this thread which are merely some jag offs coming to blast on something. That isn't adding to the discussion. Now saying you'd rather see other characters or new characters instead of Han Solo ADDS to the discussion. I apologize if you thought it was about you or it implied you have to be positive or agree with me. I love a good discussion, I can't stand the trollish bantha poodoo of shiting on anything you don't agree with just to be an Peedunky.
     
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