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SPECULATION hands down, best Rey theory!

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Sithwalker, Jan 19, 2016.

  1. Just Passing Through

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    I think it is a "bad" theory in so much as it would be a negative addition to the story and Rey's character. Is it a bad theory in terms of just making sense? No not at all, it's well thought out and explained but that still doesn't stop me thinking it would be a bad addition to the ST. The PT had some good ideas/concepts and I think the fear of taking anything from the PT would harm the ST due to an over emulation of the OT but "Force/Space Jesus" is not one of these concepts.
     
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    I'll give you props on a long thought and laid out theory OP, albeit the tiny ass image gallery haha, but that's just too much conjecture with the mass audience at large to try to convey as proof of the linear story threads. Right or wrong, it was a nice try IMO.
     
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    Thank you! Anakin as Space Jesus was already a terrible idea. This would be even worse. Transgender reincarnated Anakin...
     
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    I'm asking myself if people really see the mystical, spiritual and initiating message in Star Wars.

    It's not about planets, spaceships and laser sword. It's about a journey to the light. How to follow an initiatic path to become someone good or someone evil.

    I wonder if someone bring peace to Earth by eliminating every people could be considered as a light bringer.
     
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    I admire your imagination on this theory. I guess we just have to wait for the next movie. Good idea though!
     
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    I believe you mean "NOOOOOOOOO"
     
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    It's not ignorant at all. For one to be ignorant one would need a lack of knowlede. When it comes to Star Wars I don't think anybody on the site is ignorant. They could be arrogant possibly. or in denial, maybe even foolish, but not ignorant. I've thought about the same four points you've mentioned and still came to the same conclusion. This theory is BAD. And here we go bringing the prequels into the mix because I don't share the same enthusiasm for this theory as others. This isn't like the prequels whatsoever. The prequels were more scientific and enlightened. This is indeed mystical... it's just not Star Wars at all.
     
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    As far as the saga was extended to additional trilogies, I don't think Anakin being born from a virgin by the will of the force is a bad idea, specially when you reveal a couple of episodes later that the guy was actually "created" by Darth Plagueis. Midiclorians are another story, and for me the worst part of the whole force conept (to make the force accountable).
    I hope the power of the force keeps growing and surprising us as much as I want Plagueis to be Snoke. I don't like the prequels, but the overall story works for me.

    I just hope she's not Darth Vader's re-encarnation (born from Shmi's zombie). I just prefer "another chosen one" born in a similar, unexplainable way.
     
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    Reincarnation is about souls not bodies. It's a spirit thing. It implies that you didn't achieve your spiritual journey. ANother chosen one whatever his body is, whatever his parents are is indeed the avatar who chose Anakin's body in is precedent life.

    It doesn't imply anything with Shmi or midichlorians. It's just about the Force awakening again and chosing a body to do what is necessary to do.
     
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    It could be cool if its done right.

    Also it would sort of be a double redemption for Ani and the PT.
     
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    The problem with that idea is that its not written well. If Anakin was created by Darh Plagueis than why was he on Tatooine? Why wasnt he taken away from the planet by Sidious or Plagueis himself? On Tatooine he was just an expandable slave... What if someone (like Sebulba) kills him or dies during the podrace? The precious experiment (?) is lost so easely then.
     
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    I don't remember when it is stated that Anakin was created by Plagueis in the prequels.
     
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    It was never stated he was created by Plaguies but most people believe that the fact was hinted at by Palpatine to Anakin and mostly believe it to be true.
     
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    Miraculous conception, Force ghosts... Enough said.
     
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    What are you exactly trying to say? There were no force ghosts in the prequels... Are you trying to prove my point? immaculate reception is different from reincarnation (if you want to dip into the philosophy of it) of a constant chosen one being reborn. Vader was redeemed, he would not have to be 'reborn' over and over; it's silly.
     
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    The force created Anakin to bring balance. If the force went out of balance again, would the same thing not happen?

    And my point was that the Star Wars saga is full of fantastical things, including themes that relate to messianic myths.
     
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    Yes but Rey in reincarnate is not one of these fantastical things that would work with Star Wars, IMO. Which is why I think it is BAD.
     
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    It's the spirit of the Chosen One - that's how I read it at least. Heck, maybe there have been many over the years?
    Or even if it is just Anakin reborn/his energy reborn, I think it works for two reasons:

    1) The balance of the Force has been disturbed again so the Force would surely require The Chosen One to emerge once more and restore balance. Therefore, it's simply the energy that has always been there that becomes The Chosen One in the flesh. This would also explain the miraculous conception idea further.
    2) Anakin did bring balance and in doing so fulfilled his destiny. That is what the Chosen One is for. Although it isn't fate. They can reject it. But along the way, Anakin did many evil things that even in fulfilling his destiny, he couldn't undo. This means that the energy/spirit of The Chosen One is tainted. Thus requires cleansing. The Chosen One in the flesh, Rey, must now then face the same challenges that the original Chosen One failed in and thus truly make the spirit pure again. This spirit must go on a literal hero's journey and this time be successful in the challenges it failed in before. She must also put an end to the evil in the galaxy that would not have existed if Anakin had remained on the right path - The Empire becoming the FO, for example.

    So where does this fit in with Snoke?
    This is for me why Snoke is hell bent on destroying Skywalker. He knows that The Chosen One can only be a threat if trained to be a Jedi. By the last Jedi - Luke. He knows if Luke is found, the new Jedi will rise and The Chosen One will then fulfill his or her destiny. This is all links into the awakening Snoke feels (it's The Chosen One coming into the fore again) and why he becomes concerned and incensed when he hears about Rey:

    "Bring her to me!".

    It's probably also why he watched and seduced Kylo from a young age - he might have believed the Skywalker lineage was the lineage of The Chosen One.
    Kylo might also believe this - but from the POV of evil - being The Chosen One of the Dark Side so to speak.
    But Snoke knows the truth. He knows what Rey is and what she will do.
    It's also probably why Luke has gone off searching for the First Jedi Temple - finding out about the origins of The Chosen One lore as discovered by the Whills...

    Bloody hell, I've only just gone and solved the secret of the saga? (yoda ghost)
     
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    Actually no, his explanation and theory would be much more in harmony with eastern religions like Buddhism, or with Kardecism/Spiritism, the idea of her living in Jakku to pay for her "crimes" and still despite the suffering not being bitter, angry or hateful like Anakin was is soooooo Bhudist that i doubt they ever would put in a Star Wars movie.

    Great theory, great philosophic discussions to have, but they would have to deep so much into this that would take away from the action scenes and spaces battles, also the backlash from the Catholics and Protestants would be huge.

    That's why i don't think they would go with, but if a beautiful thoughtful theory.
     
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    It would take entire another SAGA to explain EVERYTHING .
     
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