How do you interpret the prophecy of the chosen one

That's a quote of mine from months back before I had ever given much thought to how the Force could act in any way prior to an event occurring. But again, just 2 or 3 pages back within the context of THIS discussion I posted this:

So that's me suggesting how Anakin's force origins could make sense if he wasn't created by the Sith. Another example of why it's bad to not read people's responses and just quote them out of context and without adding inthe actual question the answer was in reply to!

 

How is this a miss quote?

 

I personally prefer the Sith creation theory however as it removes the concept needing a chosen one. What insane is if the force did bring Anakin into being because of the impending imbalance then it would surely do so again which would mean Rey would have to be a chosen one. I find that restrictive. It could be however that the subconscious of the collective consciousnesses (ha!) learned the danger through Anakin's fall in supposed chosen ones. Or maybe because his kids live on there is no need to create a new one?

Whatever, for me Sith creation is more interesting and cleaner in my view.

 

maybe you should clarify your view has evolved, I asked for clarification over a trivial matter earlier and since then you have taken to being rude implying incompetence and generally insulting behaviour ever since. this is another needless insult.

I have read everything you have wrote and re read the entire forum tonight. if you are quoted its because you have said it. if its not something you mean of have out grew the view, make an amendment clearly changing your view to avoid confusion.

 

@playswellwithsharks

Again, an old post that is devoid of a new understanding I have of how the force can act seemingly with an understanding of the future. I've posted all about this over the past three pages but you just haven't read it.

The force was slipping for some time leading up to tpm but it wasn't that noticeable (Jedi disconnect) until the clone wars which shattered it.

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Ive just literally quoted a post where I have said: "another thought on destiny" and given explicit details on how and why my view changed on this specific idea!!!! Sheesh.

 

How is this a miss quote?

I have to ask you one last time to not imply I am not reading your or anyones post without the due care one should take. I personally find that very insulting and needless.

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I agree, it ticks all boxes. if you are extending this to Anakin/Vader being the chosen one of the Sith?

 

One final time: because after I wrote that I posted some time later how I could be wrong about it not making sense and about how the force could see things before they happen: see the post I have quoted above. When someone amends an idea it's usually best to take that on board rather than just quote their views prior to that.

I had never really thought that deeply about how the force could act as if it knew the future. 2 or 3 pages back I did and then came to the public realisation that both of Anakin's origin stories could make sense.

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Anakin is not the chosen one of the Sith. I can't see why you think I would say that nor how it could be true. Anakin was the chosen one by destroying the Sith.

 

I would suggest you think a little more carefully then before you post. lesson learned.

 

You're a real piece of work.
I'll take no advice from a person that completely ignores canon, official sources and who thinks Anakin is the saviour of the dark side. Now stop quoting me. I'm not dealing with you again.

 

O.K I think we are all adults on here and should treat each other with a little respect. I have quoted you when you contradict yourself espousing totally opposing point of view in tandem. You have made constant changes to your point of view to the point its virtually illegible, then get angry when people ask simple questions for the sake of clarity. You have repeatably been needlessly rude despite me apologising for any perceived slight you feel I have done you, more than once. I have passed it on to the mods now, as I find your insults extremely rude.

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Anakin was not created by the Sith that is cannon. so I'm afraid its you that is defiant to cannon.

 

A) My main view hasn't shifted. In this one small point it changed and I made that clear.
B) You're known for antagonising people, misquoting them and stirring up trouble. It got you banned before as Fallen Angel. I'm sure the mods will see that.
C) You apologised after I presented incontrovertible proof that you had "missed" my answers to your endless questions.
D) Anakin's origins are open to interpretation according to Lucas so both ideas can be canon. CANON.

 

Didn't you also change your mind on plagues on the thread?
I have never been banned from this site, as anybody?

I asked you a question you said you have already answered I asked where you answerd and I apologised?
I think you may be stretching it a little far, there was no requirement of INCONTROVERTIBLE PROOF I asked you showed I immediately apologised.

 

@master_shaitan I'm saying that like you said its not about numbers and as of right now(canon) that there is no balance in the force cause there is no JEDI/SITH. That we have force users in the galaxy using it for dark/light(good or bad or both) that view it as legends/stories and ones who believe in the ways of the Jedi/SITH. that as of right now we have 2 force users who one(Rey) is unsure about her abilities who we view as lightside and the other(Kylo) who believes in the darkside wants to become a SITH. That Luke wasnt able to hold balance himself that led to Kylo/KOR(?) to the darkside. That Snoke is a user but not a SITH. right now we dont have a SITH leader but a supreme leader, like you said a milita who he controls (KOR/Kylo)

But yea, you want more force users to pick a side cause it will better dark or lightside. so to store balance of the force you need guidance in both side which we dont have yet cause JEDI/SITH hold more control. like you said its about light and dark that there is no balance cause their are just force users.

There was always balance of the force throughout the PT and its shifts from SITH to JEDI(Anakin/Luke) to now and imbalance of the force(dark/light). Now we have 2 side who want to rule the galaxy without JEDI/SITH. that Snoke finding Luke was must for the darkside. right now there is no side that is taking control.

@playswellwithsharks with Anakin I dont see it as a SITH chosen one cause the SITH wasnt searching for the chosen one. SITH is about power, thats why the rule of 2 applied. Just imagine if Qui Gon didnt take the readings of Anakin. He thought by faith it was destined that he met him for a reason. that he wasnt in the archives of force sensitive children. The Jedi wanted to end the SITH and bring balance. Why would he be created by SITH to end the SITH? he was created by the force the chose his destiny. it is your destiny, he is the prophecy. Anakindoesnt destroy the Jedi, in Rebels he his searching for the Jedis. Vader kills(?) obi wan but doesnt know about Yoda. Luke becomes a Jedi. Vader kills sidious which bring him back to the 'chosen one'. he wanted to rule the galaxy as father and son but couldnt turn Luke.

The SITH should of killed him if they thought he was the one to kill the them. the emperor prevented him to kill him and altered his decision from light to dark. SITHs dont give a blast about who rules. just as long one is alpha he can abuse power.

 

Yes - what has that got to do with this thread? There's a million things I've changed my mind on and things that have been officially declared that one must take into account. My view on the chosen one and the balance is the same however and falls in line exactly with George Lucas and what we see on screen.

 

Thats the point of the discussion every one has a perspective, and most would believe fell in line with Georges view. Thats why we are discussing How we INTERPRET the prophecy of the chosen one?

 

So when Lucas, says Anakin was the chosen one, because he destroyed the Sith and brought balance by doing that: you accept that?

 

may I reiterate one point, form a clear view before you commit it to the forum. its difficult to keep up if you have no clear conceived idea yourself.

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I can certainly agree that Anakin was the Sith chosen one. A point George never specifies on. Anakin certainly restored balance if you judge his achievements through out his life not just on one single event like you believe.

the quote has been shortened for the sake of brevity yet still only conveys the original intent. I hope I have your approval.

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I have laid these ideas out in the videos I have put up. Do you watch them, they may be helpful in showing some of the views I see as viable?

 

You start here...

And then Luke becomes the chosen one with Rey being a so called "counterbalance"....whatever that is.

Then balance meant bringing balance to both sides...how does that work exactly?

Oh now no Jedi and Sith = balance?!
But wait, Lor San Tekka said without the jedi there cannot be balance...

Right, it was Luke and now Kylo Ren who have brought balance.

Got ya. Glad we cleared that up.

You were saying something about having a clear conceived idea yourself?

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One thing you never answered coherently, on post post, one statement:

What is the balance of the Force? How does it become unbalanced?

I bet my lunch that you don't answer this.

 

I think we need to begin with the obvious, your are quoting somebody else???

 

Oh so you're not Fallen Angel? You're just someone who makes the same posts, in the same threads, quoting people in the same way...

Wow, ok my bad. Sorry. Probably a good thing though. That guy was a complete idiot. Glad you're not him.
Anyway, what is the balance of the Force and how does it become unbalanced?