so maul survived, there goes the prophecy

I am not sure he is really a Sith in the real sense even in Rebels or TCW. He tells Ezra, he is just Maul, without the Darth. Darkside user, it's implied he is a former Sith? As for his surviving, it's kind of stupid, but then Grievous was just a heart and a brain and a little bit more and mostly machine. I guess you can make him live with droid parts in a GFFA.

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It's like this. Ezra really isn't a Jedi, but a Jedi in training, Maul is a fallen Sith apprentice, so they could open the holocrons. I know that question would come up with my answer.

 

So far with all the current canon making it possible to have different kind of Force-sensitive individuals around, I guess it is perfectly understandable that Maul is still alive, yielding more into the Dark side of the Force but not actually being a Sith.

My theory is that he will be gone by the time the Death Star plans are stolen. And at first I thought he would try to get his revenge on The Emperor, but he would be killed by Vader. However, from what we have seen so far in Rebels Season 3, it might be possible we have a rematch between Maul and Kenobi.

 

I think they made it pretty clear that, at this point in Rebels, he is no longer Sith. That's why he's "Maul," not "Darth Maul."

But even if he was a Sith, I think the prospects of him surviving all the way to ROTJ are pretty small.

 

He's not a Sith anymore and Rebels is now two years before ANH. So f there's plenty of time to kill him.

 

i doubt maul makes it to ANH, to say nothing about surviving palps and vader. you would have a better argument saying that snoke and kylo invalidate the prophecy, though word play about a sith is sides steps that problem.

the rule of two however is still fully in play and has been reinforced by the supplementary canon. for example, dooku had trained ventress in the ways of the dark side as if she was his apprentice but sidious made him attempt to kill her because she was a threat to the rule. also, the inquisitors in rebels may dabble in the darkside but are only taught so much so they don't become a threat to the big two. then there was when sidous had anakin kill dooku to take his place, or when both vader and palps tried to recruit luke to kill the other. its always about keeping just two at the top.

 

I wonder if Maul survives this season!

 

I don't think Maul will survive this season. From the context from CW and Rebels, there can only be two Sith at a time, despite receiving Sith training. For example, Ventress was taught the ways of the Sith but was not considered a Sith, but a Dark Jedi/Assassin. Maul is no longer a Sith, because there are only two Sith at the time of the original trilogy, Vader and Sidious, but that doesn't mean there aren't Force-sensitives who were trained by Palpy and Vader -to a certain extent-. If at any point the apprentice was caught teaching their Dark Side servant more than needed to be an adequate killing machine, the master would force the apprentice to kill em', similar to Dooku and Ventress, because the master would fear the apprentice has taken an apprentice of their own to aid them in killing their master. Vader tried to do the same to Luke.

 

oh yeah, there is a lot of semantics going on... to a point. remember, sith is an ideology, a designation. just because you wield the dark side doesn't mean you're a sith. same thing with the jedi. ahsoka was once a jedi knight then she left the order and now is just a force user. while maul left or was cast out and now is no longer a sith. also, general grievance doesn't count as anything because he wasn't force sensitive. and yes, sideous was playing all sides against the middle, but according to the sith rulebook its all on the up and up.

 

as to grievance, i can't say for sure but i can't recall him ever using the force in TCW and the book that contained his origin story is no longer canon. so probably is my best answer.

good point about maul. he is assumedly looking to train ezra to help him kill palps and vader which is sith like, but he is doing it more out of revenge than to carry on the sith legacy and mission. so... IDK. its all about the tap dance around the name. "what's in a name?"

 

No, he is not a force user and he took all those lightsabers from Jedi. I had only brought him up because of the fact that he was once a living being, and was at the end of his life, mostly droid. @Darth Ezra

 

I think, IF he does, it will a matter of "from a certain point of view" since Maul isn't a sith lord anymore and even purposely shed his title .

 

He may pay a visit to two suns and die.

 

Yeah but I doubt he would still practice as a sith lord if he survives since he hates them .

 

I understand what you're saying, but going down this road is going to call into question the justification for the entire ST.

In my opinion, I believe that there was a time when it was at least implied that the Sith were the one and only ultimate evil in the galaxy. ROTJ was the final battle between good and evil, and the ultimate triumph of good.

IMO, Disney's takeover has resulted in a trend toward retcons saying that the Sith were just one type of evil among many.

 

I never understood why Maul was resurrected. I found it incredibly dumb. Did Lucas make this decision, based upon the character's popularity with the fandom? If so, it's not a good idea for the artist to allow fans to have a say so on his or her work.

I don't have a problem with that. I see no reason why Force users should be limited to Jedi and Sith.