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Is Ezra Bridger in fact Supreme Leader Snoke?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by master_shaitan, Feb 11, 2016.

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    The people making the new movies don't give a rat's ass about Ezra Bridger and rightfully so.
     
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    Have they ever made any statements regarding Rebels? I can't seem to recall.:confused:
     
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    Yes...I believe that too.He is NOT human.
     
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    it would be an interesting twist, but i don't think lucasfilm would tie the ST to rebels like that, as not enough people are aware of the show to make it worthwhile. on the other hand i could see ezra meeting or having something to do with snoke during the rebels era.
     
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    Ezra... Snoke? Don't count on it.
    Just look at and compare their noses. That's all you need to know.
     
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    I really hope Ezra will stay good at the end of Rebels, regardless of what his character experiences or how his character has any "Dark Side"-ish experiences.

    He's an underdog, has lost a lot, searched a lot, but he has also learned a lot, helped many people, found a family, acceptance and a role against tyranny, not to mention an imperfect but sincere and caring mentor in the Ghost crew and Kanan. I'd like to see Ezra ultimately stay true to all of that goodness.

    I'm also looking at this question of Ezra after me having seen The Force Awakens: after Ben Solo's very tragic turning, the last thing I believe that is needed to be see again (and so soon) in the Star Wars universe is yet another promising young person being misguided, misunderstood, and turned to the Dark Side, if just for the sake of paralleling The Force Awakens and Anakin's fall in the Prequels.

    If they do crave storyline parallels, I would hope Ezra, like Rey (and Luke), could be drawn to the edge and be shown to resist the siren call of the Dark Side. Not every character has to be fragile or fail. I'd rather him stand by Kanan and the crew until the end, advancing the cause of awareness and freedom throughout the galaxy.

    In fact, I'd go so far as to say I would gladly accept Snoke as "just some random Dark Side user with absolutely no backstory" instead of Snoke being Ezra.

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    In fact Plagueis IS much older, and is stated that he's been around from a very long time, probably before the Emperor's ascension...
     
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    I got chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiills, they're multiplyin!
    But to be serious and as I said, Snoke has only 4 fingers on his hands. Even if he turns out not to be 7 feet tall, he is definitely not a human.
    Im still with the #TeamPlagueis. Actually, thats the only reveal I will accept. Plagueis would tie all 3 trilogies together.
    If he eventually turns out the be a random alien, that would be the ultimate bad writing imo.
    If that is so, than Star Wars could never end as some random someone from somewhere will always cause trouble.
     
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    If he has only 4 fingers then how would he hold a lightsaber ?
     
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    4 on both hands :) Like Yoda.
     
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    You do realize that Star Wars will never actually end right ;), it will outlive us all. Additionally, the history of our very own planet shows us that some random someone from somewhere will cause trouble. How much more likely is it that will be the case in the SW universe as well, I'd wager pretty likely, its not like the Jedi and Sith have battled for thousands of years or anything like that ;).

    I'm actually fine with the idea of Snoke being Plagueis, but lets say that he is, who is the next villain after him? I think its safe to say that Episode IX will NOT be the last Star Wars film after all. Eventually, no matter what, somewhere down the line new villains are going to be needed.
     
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    Except the ST is a continuation of the Skywalker story. VII, VIII and IX. Clearly connected story we have been told so far.
    If they want new, disconnected villains then make anthology films, standalone films set outside of the Skywalker tale.
    By continuing the Episodic series, the main villain must have a connection to the Skywalkers and not just be some new guy from the unknown regions who has now decided he wants to take over the galaxy. Yawn.

    For christ sake, make him Plagueis - the creator of Anakin, the cheater of death and the master architect of all that has transpired so far!
     
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    I'm not referring to Snoke specifically, the fact is, the Saga movies are not going to end with IX unless they somehow bomb. Star Wars is going to keep on being made for a very long time indeed, both in the form of Anthology movies and Saga movies. The fact is, even if Snoke is Plagueis, eventually new villains are going to have to be created at some point down the line. Also, you're overlooking the fact that the villain can have a connection to the main characters through means other than the past.

    For example, look at the Dark Knight Trilogy. In the second film, The Dark Knight, we get the introduction of the Joker, he has no past connections to Batman, but the fact that he is a dark mirror who challenges him and hurts his friends and loved ones gives us all the connection we need while introducing a new villain to the center stage, the fact that he isn't someone from Batman's past doesn't hurt the film one bit.
     
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    This is absolutely true, no tv show or novel will dictate the faith and pace of the movies to be, it's the all time around.

    Very strong Facts here: Snoke is an Alien and Snoke Old Age when compared to Ezra (to me enough to stop this claim)

    I disagree, you're completely right in your statements but the main villain shouldn't need to have a connection to the Skywalkers, in order to continue things up from previous movies, just like you well said it, you only need AT LEAST one character connected to the Skywlakers and we already have, at least, Kylo Ren/Ben Solo to continue the Skywalker story.
     
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    Agreed on all points, especially the first. An important thing to remember is that even though a lot of SW fans enjoy the other media, it is still ultimately secondary to the films. The dog(films) wags the tail(other media), not the other way around.

    That being said, it is still possible that we will see new characters first in other forms of media, especially since the Story Group controls everything much more tightly now. But all such cases of that so far have only been in regard to minor characters like Snap Wexley from TFA being Temmin from the Aftermath novel for instance.

    Another strike against the Ezra thing is the fact that Rebels started airing a long time before the script for Episode VIII was ever put down on paper. Is it possible that the Story Group has a bare bones knowledge of what is coming and planted a seed like that? Sure, it is technically not impossible, but it is highly unlikely.
     
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    Actually the plots and stories go like this: you get the big picture plot first, the great story, the order of events affecting the main characters over the course of many years and their goals and achievments, and after that they produce the smaller stories, or episodes, from the great one, keeping everything tightly tied in and with a logical narrative sequence.

    Just Imagine Soap Operas, in the beggining they lay out the entire story for 500 episodes, then they start to write one episode at a time but every single episode connects to the episodes before and after him even if they are not written yet because they follow the big story. Of course that in the process the big story can change depending on the reaction of the viewers, but you will never know, because if the audience hated a character the creative team first change the big story to alter the procedures of that character and then restart writting episodes.

    Loved "The dog(films) wags the tail(other media), not the other way around."
     
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    I do not think he is Supreme Leader Snoke. i just don't see Ezra being that powerful and wise; however, Ezra could end up being Benicio Del Toro's character.
     
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    Well, I'd say it would be irrelevant for general audiences whether Snoke has a backstory or not, but for fans he'd cease to be an deus ex machina character that just popped out of nowhere.

    Darth Plagueis adopting Ezra and turning him into Snoke. Can't help but like the sound of it.

    I'm intrigued (as "usual" I'm tempted to say) by Master Shaitan's mental gymnastics and like to take it one step further.

    I've heard that Luke's lightsaber possibly has allusions to Excalibur. Those that saw this film will remember that Arthur was actually an illegitimate child.

    Assuming that Leia spent a night with Han, except it wasn't Han but Ezra pretending to be Han

    Then Kylo would actually be Ezra's son, not knowing that Solo wasn't his father. The need / ability to cut the umbilical chord (poor choice of words) to Solo would be a necessity.

    The one thing I'm even voicing that possibility is that one particular scene from TFA resonated so strongly in my mind that I really couldn't make head or tail out of it: IIRC, Snoke asked Hux about Kylo's condition, but with such a fatherly, compassionate and concerned voice that I couldn't help but notice.

    P.S. Snoke just has four fingers on each of his hands?
     
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    Agreed I don't see that wise behavior in Ezra yet, he is still a young padawan learning the jedi craft right now under Kanan's watch Snoke must have came from a older jedi ancestory, I would take Benico as the adult Ezra over anything right now.
     
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