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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

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  2. No

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  1. Maximus

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    i'm not sure any of us ever left square one my friend ;) lol
     
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    #PlagueisConfirmed
     
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    Until now I have not heard a single fitting explanation why a Rey is sent to Luke while his own twin sister who desperately tried to find his brother prior to TFA and during the whole movie doesn't go. But when he is found, she sends Rey Doe to convince Luke to return. Makes perfect sense. :cool:
     
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    - Leia sent Poe to find the map at the start of the film despite the fact that she thought she should be doing it.
    - Leia realised (and this is alluded to in TFA when she tells Han she was a fool to think she could bring Luke back) that she wasn't the one who could persuade Luke to come home.
    - Leia saw that Rey was the new hope for the Jedi. It's probable that Leia thinks Luke left (as Han describes) because he feels guilty that his students are all dead. To Leia, sending a new Jedi student could be the kick up the bum Luke needs.
    - The saber called to Rey and the Force wanted her to take it to Luke. If Leia didn't realise that, Maz likely told her.
     
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    The first question we have to ask ourselves is what is this movie about ?

    It's about bringing new characters to the old story and the new hero to the old hero who will pass her the torch for the new trilogies to come. The falcon is a trick to bring Finn and Rey to Han, the saber is a trick to bring Rey to Luke. That's that simple. All the rest is assumptions because of the ESB's twist. Fans can't help themselves to make ties everywhere is the movie, Snoke-Plagueis, Finn-Lando, Rey-Luke or Leia.

    Maybe it's true but nothing in the movie shows anything. All we have are quotes, old models but in The Force Awakens, there's nothing of that. The only thing we have is a Yin / Yang parallel between Kylo and Rey. Are they family ? Maybe but it is not shown on screen.

    All I discuss is what is shown on screen, I don't care about quotes or the old movies.
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 4, 2016, Original Post Date: Oct 4, 2016 ---
    You won't have an answer about every question you ask. The purpose of the movie was bring Rey to Luke so that's what they did.
     
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    Except that the whole Rey part of this movie was about finding her own family. So the last picture of this movie should end with Rey finding her family. And that's what millions of people saw who left the movie and said that's Luke's kid. ;)
     
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    But that is what happened. Just not in the way you describe!
    TFA was about finding Luke and finding family.
    But what Rey realised was that her family were gone and never coming back but that she could find a family and home in others:
    Finn, Han, Chewie, BB8, Leia...and Luke.

    You don't have to have blood ties to be a family. Just ask George Lucas that. ;)
    That last shot of the film for was a student asking a teacher to train her but the teacher being unwilling because they consider themselves a failure.
    It will be down to Rey to convince Luke otherwise. To bring him home.
    And then together as a family, they will try and save Ben Solo.
     
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    I can only relate to myself in this and when I search for my own family (my father and my mother are dead in real life), I don't accept a bunch of unknown as my new family.
     
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    The movie was about finding Luke. Rey's part was finding the force.
    This pretty much covers it perfectly.

    Hi @Jedihopper... I see you left me some more negative feedback without posting in this thread. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they.
     
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    This is interesting how she says "we find our families".
    Keep in mind she is talking about Finn and I'm guessing that Finn isn't a Solo, Skywalker etc.
    So this for me confirms my view that TFA is about Rey (and Finn) finding a new family rather than their actual ones.
    I think that'll be saved for later with Rey to create conflict. And if Luke is her father then that conflict isn't there imo.
     
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    despite the fact that we're of different opinion with Rey.. you are 100% spot on with what your saying. that's what time does to people like me - these films and characters occupy my mind, so with a new film coming in just over a years time.. every thought and notion comes out.

    you have another year to cope with mine and others wild thoughts @Bandini... and then the 2 yr clock resets ;)

    sounds great. if that's the way it pans out then i'm all over that, and i can honestly say i wouldn't be disappointed.


    to those that think Rey is completely unrelated to any known character:-

    this is an honest question, and i'm not trying to be flippant (yeah ok.. your getting to know me now and you know flippant and i are close lol)

    excluding the section of fans that think Rey has a big family reveal coming, do you not get the impression from those around the production of the film that Rey's parentage is a secret.. and a secret that will be addressed during the next 2 movies?
     
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    I guess Finn's arc is pointless then...
    [​IMG]
     
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    sorry, but I have to disagree here and there were more motives in the movie that were cut out like Rey seing a mother waiting with her daughter. The movie was very much for Rey finding her family and accepting the force.

    I know there is a strong group who doesn't want Luke to have a kid, but are willing to accept a new chosen one, an Anakin clone, an Anakin kid done through experiments, ReyLo and whatever. This sometimes gets tiresome since I hear the same arguments again and again, yes we Luke fans use also often the same arguments. It just seems we don't accept our opinions and how we saw the movie. :(

    And I have to say the motive of Luke as the reluctant teacher is boring and was done in almost every movie, from martial arts to police movie. Bring in a new young guy/girl and have the crumpy old guy. In the end they work together. If this is all, I will be bored to say the least. A father/daughter relation brings in so much more personal tension and conflict.
     
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    Is that why you leave negative feedback? Pretty much 90% of my negative feedback comes from angry Rey Skywalker fans. It's odd because if you go back to the early days of the thread that was my preferred outcome. However, I've never been emotionally attached to the idea. I made some of the very similar arguments you and others have made, but the arguments of @Bandini, @master_shaitan and others made sense. Plus, the current timeline is problematic. I don't really care as long as the story is good and a father/daughter thing is just a OT rehash. It's predictable. It's lazy. It will be difficult to make good story out of it.
     
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    nope, I disagreed with the comment that finding a bunch of unknown can replace your own family. This never worked for me, so maybe I get too emotional with this. I remove the negative feedback, since it is a very personal thing for me. :(
     
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    Family for an orphant is her friends. The one she saved the galaxy with. Rey was a lonely girl, desperately lonely. For the first time, she found someone who cared for her ( Finn ) because all the other characters in the movie didn't care about her at all.
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    Because you have a family, she didn't.
     
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    my parents are dead and the remaining far distant relatives don't care for me, so no, I don't have a family anymore. But this gets too off topic I fear. :(
     
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    Sorry to hear that but for myself, my mother died when I was a kid, my real father is an absolute db who always chosed his new wife to his children and the one whom I felt attached to were my friends. Family is the ones who care for you and the ones you care for.
     
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    that's what's really confusing me.. i think Rey is a Skywalker, but they make too good an argument that she isn't lol

    i agree. Rey being Luke's daughter is just how i saw the story going in TFA. i don't think that my mind will change until i either see the next movie and it's confirmed, or if something in a trailer points to a different path. If Rey Skywalker does come to pass then i have the same worries about the story as you :)

    I always tend to smile when i see complete strangers bringing up such raw personal feelings on forums like this.

    it highlights how strongly we all feel about star wars, and how we relate personally to the characters and storylines.

    whatever your view is about what will happen next in the ST, we need to remember how emotional we all are about this stuff and appreciate everyone's involvement.
     
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    I feel your pain Rey Skywalkers fans. I was so wrong.
     
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