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SPOILER Last Night's Wannabe SpoilerMan - A Full Plot Summary?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Willybobo, Jan 8, 2015.

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    How is an opinion wrong?

    Darth Maul is Dead by movie logic.

    So, you are 12 years old? Wait maybe 10... ???
     
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    I said the above previously someone labeled trolling I would love to know why. In the context of the surround posts it was in no way meant spitefully.
     
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    The read was fun, some aspects of it I like (will we see dozens of Ewok corpses laying around?) :) , some of it I don´t - rip offs of ANH.
    The whole Darth Maul thing being around 55 years after being cut in half (and allthis time hiding) is BS. 90% of the viewers doesn´t even know some cartoon show named The clone wars even exists so they would be like Whaaaaaat? This guy dies in Phantom Menace and now, so many years after, he´s here and alive?! :) What a joke!. TV shows are the same as books and comics - it´s here to exploit the franchise, to squeeze more money. Because so many stories means lower quality - it has no time and space to bring great plot and characters ideas every book/comic book/tv episode so it´s inevitable they do stupid stuff from time to time like clone/resurrect dead characters and it´s all because lack of talent/time to invent something NEW.
     
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    The part with Darth Maul was blatantly written by another poster, so I wouldn't give it any credence. Technically speaking, I don't give this a lot of credence either, but the Darth Maul thing was inconsistent with the rest of the narrative.

    As for Darth Maul appearing past The Clone Wars? It could happen, but I see that happening more in the interim between Revenge Of The Sith and A New Hope or early on in the Galactic Civil War than in the Sequel Trilogy's era. He would be awesome as an antagonist in an Obi-Wan movie, though - it could even be a pseudo-adaptation of the "Old Wounds" story.
     
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    The plotline of the Obi-Wan spin-off having him kill Darth Maul for the final time
     
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    Which is exactly what happened in the "Old Wounds" story. Even though it explicitly wasn't canon back when the EU was a thing.
     
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    I know just saying that would be something they could do since I can't really think of anything else. They kind of gave us the idea he was sitting around Tatooine not doing anything for 18 years
     
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    But characters can't sit around for years and years doing nothing that is unrealistic and dumb. It makes no sense. Completely ridiculous.

    /sarcasm
     
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    The original post, isn't the Dark Embrace scene missing?
     
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    Amongst several other things. The guy didn't do his homework before posting a fake summary
     
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    I think he's talking about the concept art where Darth Spooky-Trousers is hugging Rey.

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    Technically speaking, though, he didn't get into the third act of the film, which is when this scene undoubtedly takes place.
     
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    There are people who are of the opinion that the Holocaust never happened or that we never went to the moon.

    Their opinions are wrong.

    Just like saying that Maul is dead (and no, you can't just use the movies because they aren't the entire canon.)

    Continue to call me dumb, but at least I'm acknowledging canon, unlike you sir.
     
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    *points frantically to the time I referenced Immanuel Kant*
     
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    Darth Maul is alive by logical logic.

    When an opinion can be disproven with fact, it doesn't change the fact that it is an opinion technically, but it is clearly wrong.

    For example, my Grandmother is of the opinion that it is perfectly normal for a ceramic tile floor to completely fail under normal use after 6 years. She literally knows nothing of floor installations or the duribility of different materials under different circumstances. I on the other hand have worked in home improvement for 10 years and I know flooring experts and installers. We all agree that tiles will crack and grout will come up if the proper subfloor is not installed.

    These facts don't change her opinion. The same can be applied here.
     
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    Darth Maul was brought back in The Clone Wars for one reason:

    Filler.

    They needed a bad guy. They needed to keep interest.

    Darth Maul will not be in TFA. I promise you.
     
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    TCW introduced a number of compelling villains; Cad Bane, Asajj Ventriss, Pong Krell, Admiral Trench, Mother Talzin, among others. I mean if they wanted to out do Maul his brother Savage Opress was perfect. I am not denying that it would bring some fan service in but they brought him back I would say in part cause people complained he was under used.

    I don't think he will be in the movie and that is fine with me. I never argued he should be or even that it would be cool. Just that he at this point is alive and they have even been using him since TCW ended.
     
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    Star Wars fans are not only in the small cartoon world. They are out there, worshipping the movies, not having time or interest to explore books or cartoons. If I´m optimistic - there would be like 10% of star wars fans (mostly kids) knowing that Darth Maul is alive, and 90% who doesn´t know and doesn´t care - they´v seen him cut in half by a lightsaber and falling down to the pit, and sorry for it, but the logic in that moment tells he´s pretty dead. If someone with lack of imagination 10-12 years after invent that he actually survived, it doesn´t change the awareness of the mayority of the audience. Most of them would never know this so important news for the star wars universe, and the few who accidentally find out will just say "good joke". To me, personally - it´s a bad joke. If Maul survived, no death of any character will matter anymore - in a future any lazerbrain could bring him back in some ludicrous way...
     
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    "She leaves, then has a run in with sandpeople that take out her speeder. She crashes and is knocked out, the sandpeople are then startled by Finn, as he approaches in his stormstrooper costume. He helps Rey, they meet, blah blah blah, they discuss how they both felt the force, they both decide they're meant for something better and head to Mos Eisly to find a transport off the planet when they meet Han Solo and Chewie"

    If this is genuine it seems almost identical to the early part of A New Hope. Luke knocked out by a sandperson, Luke and Ben going to Mos Eisley and meeting Han!

    Surely they wouldn't copy the same scenes in TFA?
     
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    Ignorance doesn't change facts, whether you like it or not Darth Maul survived TPM. Whether most people know about it is irrelevant. Whether or not it is shown in an existing or future movie is irrelevant. Whether or not you think it is creative...wait for it... is irrelevant.

    Let's point out that this is the same creative property where a man had three of his four limbs severed off, had his entire body burned to a crisp, and still survived for decades with a mobile respirator. Logic would tell me that someone would not survive this event in the first place. So to me, being cut in half, falling down a shaft, yet surviving, doesn't really set any precedents. Especially when a major character just so happened to fall hundreds of feet down a shaft into a tunnel (the impact of which should have killed him) and dangled in mid-air until his telepathic messages reached his sister and she picked him up in her spaceship. Does any of that sound ridiculous or lack creativity to you?

    Whatever happened in TCW happened within the same universe/timeline as the movies per Lucas Entertainment. To argue anything to the contrary is pointless and borderline delusional.

    If for some reason Maul will be in the ST, which at best I find doubtful, they will likely explain why he is there for those who have not seen TCW.
     
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