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SPOILER Luke SPOILER (Also Ridley, Driver, Lupita, & MvS)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by spectacle, Nov 2, 2014.

  1. Kramgnol

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    That is my thought, the little blue nanny.
     
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    If MSW is correct then he becomes Obi-Wan. The difference is Obi-Wan was watching over Luke and not afraid of his powers or crazy. I think this is a little odd to say Luke was afraid as he was told fear leads to the dark side. I hope this is not true and is JJ throwing us off. I want Luke to be the powerful, wise old wizard not crazy uncle Luke. I can see Luke back on the farm and staying out of the galaxy (not that I like that idea) but not some crazy old coot. I really want him to restart the Jedi. I find it hard to believe the farm boy that wanted off the farm has gone into self imposed exile. It would be a shock and a let down.
     
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    Luke's reason for his exile either means two things for the movie 1 . The opening scroll is going to have to be word perfect for me to buy Luke being in self imposed exile ( it's a hard sell without seeing his actions and choices with my own eyes ) 2 . We will get flashbacks ( wich I'm kind of dreading ) .

    Either way I believe the MakingStarWars story that Luke is kind of deranged at this point ! Just hope they can cram this backstory into the movie without hampering its pace ?
     
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    See below for Luke & Kira, plus Leia and her kids:



    SMALL-WONDER-DVD-1.jpg

    Great Post this! You know it to be true!
     
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    Good points.

    From MSW's post, I'm thinking the rumored flashbacks will be in the way of scenes where:
    "Luke is seeing the past, the present, the future, “old friends long gone” and other things that prey upon his sanity."

    EDIT: Random thought. From the standpoint that he's having these visions, and ones that are driving him insane, do we think that there's any chance that these cyborg images are a part of Luke's hallucinations?


    I had seen other interpretations that perhaps some of the "Phantom of the Opera" style art might be a scene were Kira has a cave-like vision, but what if it's actually another cave-like vision for Luke? Could he be seeing images of his fear of becoming more machine than man, and hurting Kira? As I write this, I'm thinking that there was too much concept art for this character for it only to be seen in hallucination form, but hey, fun to spitball here...
     
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    I don't think you have to have either. The opening scroll could just say Luke Skywalker disappeared 10 years ago without a trace, leaving Leia and the few Jedi he was training alone and without guidance. Then when it comes time Han/Leia can tell us where he hid. "He said he could be a danger to us all and he needed to prevent his power from being used against us. But he told me where he was going just in case. I think this is why."

    Then Luke when Daisy finds him "I did something that shouldn't be possible... you were dead and I brought you back. With power like that to bring someone back... imagine what the Dark side would do, bring back the emperor, Vader not Anakin entire legions of Sith warriors to rule the Galaxy... the risk is too great"

    She tells him that evil is here and its coming whether he stays hidden or not but she needs his help if there is any hope to defeat it. etc etc maybe Han gets killed Luke goes Super sayen yada yada wins a battle Han's funeral and boom roll credits.
     
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    Wasn't that little blue alien shown constructing a lightsaber in a pic MSW had? Daisy's character seems independent, resourceful and resilient. I seriously doubt that she needs a nanny.
     
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    Maybe he does something so powerful the force reacts and offsets by unleashing a long gone evil that is just as strong as he is to keep Luke in balance.
     
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    Well the debate still rages on , on wether there is even a cyborg character in the movie !

    My own theory is that the leaked cyborg art was subterfuge , I believe those scenes do exist within the movie but a generic villain type image ( eg cyborg ) was used in the art to protect the identity of the true character within those scenes ( deranged Luke )

    But I do like your idea of the cyborg being a figment of a Luke vision of a possible dark side futuer !
     
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    Hmm, am I the only one who thinks that this self exile thing and the mega powerful Luke we've heard before? But I really can't remember where. I remember that "This is Infamous" mentioned something similar before, but not sure about the rest.
     
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    I definitely agree, this has popped up somewhere in the past with less detail, I think before the Luke-as-Cyborg info hit.


    EDIT:

    This link is what was ringing a bell for me from "This is Infamous", regarding his powers going so far as being able to move mountains and take down starships with a glance:
    http://thisisinfamous.com/exclusive-luke-skywalkers-whereabouts-star-wars-episode-vii/
     
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    This is confirmed :)

    Ok, you make a fair point, however... there is a level of acceptability... whenever someone confirms something, you have to take the source you are talking to and evaluate their ability to vet their source. We know nothing about the people posting here, of course, so we have to take it with a large dose of salt. When someone like Viral confirms something, it has more credibility, because he has a track record that can be pointed to where what he has said (and confirmed) has panned out... its more reliable...

    Latino Review has a fairly decent track record, so we have to take that their confirmation carries some weight... however, they did not mention which parts they confirmed, so the whole post is suspect... but, if some of it is confirmed, it lends weight to the entire post, as we know (or believe) at least some of it is true...

    Absolutely understood... and the character could have developed after that... all very true, and makes it difficult for us to hit the moving target...

    You need to consider the context... prior to the release of the concept art, when it was just being discussed, there was a comment from someone that looked at it that said "it looks like Luke is a cyborg" due to the face mask... now keep in mind, this was a developmental piece that seems to have evolved into what we now call the Warlord, which is a more complete helmet design. Confirmation came back (as good as that is) that "Luke is not a cyborg" and "there is a twist" which was taken that this character may not be Luke, force-test, imposter, etc

    So the comment you are referring to is in regard to the "Luke is not a cyborg" stating that he is, and has been since ESB... not that the event in ESB is causing his current actions

    This leads back to Luke in exile, and wondering if he stays in isolation while in exile... blows the hell out of my theory if true... or at least warrants reworking. He could still be staying away, the pirates could be near him, seeking him out as a sage... he might still jump in from time to time, but retreat after he does things...

    Maybe he was captured, or at least attacked, and when he saw his wife fall, he had his Unleashed moment... and went into seclusion then... if seeing your wife killed isn't enough to unleash the inner woopass, what would be?

    Looks like it... although if you remember me going over how the beginning would go down... I had Boyega as the next generation Zorro doing the attack, and Luke/Warlord swooping down and saving his ass when it gets in a sling... however, if Luke is the Warlord, and the chromies are with him, then he isn't exactly in isolation... unless... they are striking from Yavin, the castle is near there, they are doing the commando thing and going to him in a "wise sage in the mountain" thing, but he stays secluded... reluctantly coming out when needed, then retreating back to his lonely cave where he looks at Vader's mask in his madness wondering if he is becoming his father...

    One might even say debating the nature of good and evil...

    Well... it fits things from one angle, and now seems not to fit this... thing about theories, everyone has one, you know the drill...

    I have no ego on this, don't mind being proven wrong... we are all looking at a jigsaw, trying to figure out how pieces fit together...

    Maybe Luke has been kinda watching over Daisy...

    It has been thrown about before... perhaps a powerful Jedi like admin can get in touch with Jason and (admin to admin) see if there is anything that can be gleaned from this
     
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    Just a theory I'll throw out there

    Perhaps Luke goes in to self imposed exile because of the death of his apprentice . It would be logical for Luke to take on a apprentice after Return of the Jedi . Maybe a tragic accident results in said apprentice being killed / gravely injured !

    Luke takes on this guilt and imposes a self exile !

    I imagine Luke would of been a very open and honest teacher who would of told his young apprentice all about his farther Darth Vader as a cautionary tale to impart knowledge .

    In a twist of fate unknown to Luke the apprentice survives said accident , only to rebuild himself into a cyborg Sith bent on Revenge fuelled of tales of the great Lord Vader .


    Movie opens with Luke's apprentice on Endor looking for Vaders remains ........
     
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    I like your idea of Luke watching over Daisy but it's a little to ANH for me. I still believe Daisy and John are both on a Jedi mission to start the movie. I hope that Luke is not mad or off.

    It's a Trap great theory.
     
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    JJ loves time travel, what if Luke tears a hole in time.
     
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    Best theory I have heard so far! Just to explore the idea some more, Luke kills Driver at the end of the movie, vowing never to train another apprentice. Luke then sees Yoda (Kyle's scene) telling him to pass on what he has learned.
     
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    This is not Star Trek (ackbar)
     
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    But it is JJ
     
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    There isn't time travel in all of JJ's work though.
     
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    No, I'm just spitballing like everyone else
     
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