SPOILER Luke SPOILER (Also Ridley, Driver, Lupita, & MvS)

Brilliant. If they do flashbacks, for whatever reason, this is the way to do them. Luke visions.

Then we can see certain things on screen and have it feel like Star Wars.

This "amazing" force thing he does to scare himself really has me curious.

Maybe he brought Kira back to life and she doesn't know it and we won't until the end? It could be powerful if she is his niece too- did a dark side trick to save his sister from pain? Maybe that's the twist?

Also, Jason from making did mention on twitter about losing a family changes someone, no? I suppose that could also still fit. His order/family was attacked...in a fit of rage and emotion he brought Kira back...then went hiding?

That would also be another reason for the big bad to be plagues. He created life and Luke stopped death.

Would also allow the trilogy to explore not only vader's legacy, but his origin too.

And who's to say annakin was his only creation?

 

One of the most plausible things I have seen. If you add the idea that perhaps the force wants to be in balance, then perhaps to counter Luke's power some equivalent evil power comes back. Its an interesting idea.

 

http://makingstarwars.net/2014/11/star-wars-episode-vii-state-luke-skywalker/

Wow....excellent article. Very logical approach.

 

Can anyone else see a scenario where Luke loses his Wife and his Son seeks revenge? Wanting to take justice into his own hands for those responsible or just justice in general. So he takes on Vader's image and uses the fear that it still brings to the galaxy to his advantage. Something Luke will not do or condone but won't try and stop either.

 

Going off of Jason Ward's article on MSW: "The imbalance he feared bringing back to the galaxy is set into motion by the new evil. But it is not only evil that brings Luke Skywalker out of exile. The good in the universe does as well when one of the heroes convinces him the place he is in is not where he belongs."

That got me thinking: there was a rumor that the new evil people are trying to turn a planet into a weapon, what if that planet is where Luke is exiled? Maybe they are trying to capture Luke "Force unleashed" and that's why other heroes in the story need to get Luke out of exile -- the new evil is going to harvest Luke's power into the dark side.

 

Love this idea.

Never particularly liked the idea of Luke in some strange "evil" looking armor/mask.

Him having an apprentice at some point in the last 30 years that has been seriously injured - or killed, as Luke may believe at the beginning of VII - in some sort of battle in which Luke has to unleash some serious power to win would be excellent. This would perfectly set up this strange 'Grave Robber' character and provide a great explanation for them knowing who Vader was and where to find his remains. Luke's apprentice, having survived this and feeling betrayed that the guy who trained him has apparently abandoned him during recovery, turns to the dark side and starts obsessing over the only other well-known force user of the last 30-40 years - Vader.

Having Luke's sanity called into question would be an excellent dark sort of start to the sequel trilogy. If we started out with the Luke, Leia, and Han all together and still battling a remnant Empire and then threw a new trio into the mix it would feel far too safe. With Luke sort of out of the picture, Leia preoccupied with the political side of the situation, and just Han and Chewbacca to touch base with the new trio it leaves it far more open ended. Gives it a lot more of a dangerous feel. Then, once our big evil is revealed, Luke has to be found and brought back to help our heroes confront this new threat in Episode VIII

 

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From that latest article about Luke, it sounds an awful lot like there may have to be some sort of flashbacks to set the story up.
This sort of leads me to begin to theorize that Domnhall Gleeson's character may be young Luke Skywalker (in some sort of dream, vision, flashback, hologram)
& I haven't heard anything speculating about Domnhall since the summer...which is weird imo

 

Setting up flashbacks would be extremely difficult to do believably - especially with a different actor playing Luke.

This would just come across as clunky considering we have seen Luke at 19 and now at 54 both being played by Mark.

 

Ah, this is true. But you really just never know..

There's always the case of Grand Moff Tarkin lol

 

Forgot about Tarkin, though they did a fantastic job of finding two guys that looked very similar - Look at those sunken in cheeks!

Would not be nearly as easy nor believable if it were done with the lead and most recognizable character in Star Wars this side of Vader.

 

Coming to the thread late. Is it possible that Luke is a cyborg, then dies, then comes back as a ghost of his former glorious self? Is that stretching it for one film? We discussed Luke taking the Ep IV Obi-Wan role in VII: would it be too much if he died and came back as Obi-Wan did?

EDIT: In fact, I'm jumping ahead and commenting without reading the whole thread now but I really like this angle. We meet Luke, who has been missing for decades. He is trashed, more machine than man, defeated in body and soul. The effort of resisting the Dark Side has driven him insane, his powers have no master. He is neither good nor evil, but he is dangerous. Erratic and uncontrollable. And he cannot communicate what happened, where he's been, how this happened. Then, in some concerted effort to protect those he (still) loves, he sacrifices himself. What a tragic end for a once celebrated hero! Only then he returns, strong and restored, just as Anakin did after the death of Vader. Now he can tell his story. Now we find out where he's been and what happened to wear him down to nothing. There's your flashback. And that's one hell of a reveal for Ep VIII. Pure fan speculation, of course.

 

A lot of the "Luke as the new Obi-Wan" references have been dropped as of late, considering all the rampant speculation that he is the Warlord/Grave Robber character. Very difficult to envision a single movie in which he could play into both of these rumors.

I personally don't like the idea of either one - Luke as a new Obi-Wan figure sort of lowers his status in the saga. We have to remember that, though this is a new trilogy that will inevitably focus on the new lead characters, Luke is still very much the main character of the story at this point in time. Even if we do lose him at some point, having him come straight out of the gate as just a mentor/protector figure without continuing to flesh out the character that defined Star Wars as a whole would be significantly downplaying his importance. For his arc to completely mimic Obi-Wan's, and therefore VII completely mimic IV, would just be too predictable and boring, IMHO.

At the same time, having him make a complete flip and being some sort of a bad guy doesn't feel right for much the same reason.

I like the most recent statements from MSW implying him to be stuck in some sort of self-imposed exile due to a perceived lack of control of some tremendous powers. He defeated Vader and then the Emperor, albeit with Anakin's help, at the age of 23. This made him the most powerful force user in the galaxy 30 years before VII is to be set. We can only take this to mean that, most likely, his powers have grown well beyond that in the time since we have last seen him - thus putting him at a place we have never seen a Sith or Jedi at before. This could be extremely taxing on someone - especially someone that received very little training and guidance from (live) Jedi Masters.

 

This is, more or less, the Batman theory I put forth a while back... I am still settling in on the MSW article, and I am not sure it knocks my theory out, by it does seem to dent it a bit...

 

So, flashback Luke is going to look like a cheap Halloween costume?

You're absolutely right.

This realization must be overwhelming.

If what MSW says is true, Luke is kind of lost, with powers he can't understand, on mission he cannot complete. What if his ideals are noble, but as his perception of reality is much grander than everyone else's, his actions are unintelligible and seemingly sinister for people with lesser understanding. This way he could be presented as villain while still being a good guy, adding some depth and tasty ambiguity to the character.

 

I thought it looked like Odo from Star Trek Deep Space 9

 

It would be bizarre if Luke lived in a kind of dream state and experienced reality as a mish-mash of the here-and-now, emotional resonance and prophecy. Like his entire life is like being in the cave on Dagobah.

 

As was noted, G@BRIELGR@Y is back... and he wasted no time in jumping into the Luke debate...

 

Oh Dear God, No! Not a time travel story. Please don't let cyborg Luke be from the future, sent back in time to kill the legacy of his former movies... tee-hee...

 

He also took the issue of if Luke was the Warlord pretty head on







[EDIT]The last one I originally had in here seems to really have been referring to Iron Man, and a potential salary dispute... I have removed it in the interest of not causing confusion, and edited this to note its absence[/EDIT]

What if Luke is in seclusion, and the Warlord is a Force controlled drone he sends out into the world...

 

The child of a slave who made robots that makes and remotely controls slaves? Hmm...interesting...but not sure...