SPOILER MakingStarWars Rumors and Speculation Thread (Part 1)

Maybe Han owes Luke some $$$ and is trying to avoid him?

 

This is exactly what I was about to post - that maybe Mark did all the job not only for 7, but 8 as well...

 

The issue isn't just a lack of Luke...its that it is a complete gimmick. If true, this is Mystery Box meets Marvel basically.

I don't buy for a second "maybe this is what the story demanded"....any half-competent screenwriter can find something for Luke to do in Star Wars.

He can be the Yoda, he can even have a tiny role in TFA, but not what amounts to a button end scene that just happens to be before the credits.

It's basically a "gotcha!"- which is lazy film-making and more of a marketing thing.

Most Star Wars movies end open ended, but no need to go full on "To Be Continued!" like Hunger Games or something.

I really preferred the idea/rumor that Luke had gone into self-imposed exile after doing something crazy with the Force...our heroes have to find him for some reason...and in the 3rd act when they do find him, he isn't himself at first. He is a crazy wizard. Rey/Finn/Han somehow pulls him out of it, movie ends with Luke having a purpose.

Han dying could still happen...and it would still be tragic. Finally reunited with his buddy, one last "you owe me one" and he's gone.

Han never finding Luke isn't tragic...it's pretty depressing. And again, only necessary to produce a "gotcha!!!" moment. Lame

 

Well, the PT were pretty close to Star NEGOTIATIONS. Maybe there's a bigger plan here...

 

If anyone would know where to find Luke, it will be Leia, through the Force. She may be the one telling Rey...

 

Why are the mods of this board so friendly to him? have they a secret deal? (information exchange)
This board would work well also without his influence.
I try to delete his ridiculous claims from my mind, he had his 5 minutes of fame, it's time to move along.
By the way I don't like his attitude against other board members.

 

The "Kylo not killing Ray" could be just an interpretation of the concept art picture we´we all seen)

 

Ha. Should've seen the MSW tantrum post about this board....

 

See....and here we have a rumor of two separate pre ST characters snapping out of it when Rey and Finn come along, but at both ends of the movie.

 

Maybe there´s a reason why they want to keep the Holy trinity apart. It´s cool to see a group of young people together, but it´s not that fun to see a group of old people adventuring around, especially if one of them is a Princess and one of them is "kid" . Separate them and having them interact with young folks individually makes much more sense...

 

Have you ever watched an American sitcom or family guy?

Trust me, the OT is still massive, my 7 year old nephew realises how much better it is than PT

 

I grew up watching and idolizing the OT in the '80s. The PT was not what I envisioned it would be either, but I love all of the current six films (and soon to be nine) as they are equally Star Wars. The rigid anti-PT Star Wars fanaticism phenomenon is -- to sugar coat it -- "unfortunate", tiresome, and unbecoming.

 

Exactly this! Everything from Bluemilks 1st paragraph, Jason has claimed about Luke at one point or another.

I remember He once wrote about having this big lunch meeting with his source where he discusses Luke's role in his film and now he's claiming he's barely even in the film. He's so all over the place with his rumors, it's mind-numbing

In my opinion, Jason from making Star Wars is nothing but a fan who landed some concept art. He has been making fan fiction of this claiming he has a source but meanwhile his source knows next to nothing.

He doesn't know whether these are old concept or new art hence by his changing stories which are impossible to make any sense of it. He has flip-flopped his story more then John Kerry and continues to hide behind the excuse that the script was changed if and when he's proven wrong.

Examples of His flip flopping eg;
-changed the beginning of the movie countless times
-claiming Luke was a cyborg & 80 million other things as bluemilk pointed out
-claims there is a blue alien supporting character
-said he was 90% sure it wasn't tatooine and now claims there is a good chance it is

These are just off the top of my head and I only bring this to light because it illustrates one important thing...Jason has NO idea what is happening in this movie.

Bear in mind this is just my opinion and it's not meant to be a personal attack. I like the guys enthusiasm and he is a huge Star Wars fan therefore he's ok in my book.

What I don't like is he dragging people along while he slowly drops another idea from his concept art claiming he knows more then he does.

I also don't like that keeps using the script being changed as a excuse. That means literally anyone can come up with a good plot based on these rumors & art and then when proven wrong just claim "oh well this must be from Arndts script"
Or "it was changed last second" eg: spoilerman.

Either you have a legit source or you don't...it can't be both. He never stands
behind anything except this latest stuff. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Almost every scoop person I have read (Latino review, viral, schmoes) admits and is not afraid to be wrong. The single most reason why I think he's a BS artist is because the common trait they often carry is never admitting to being wrong and they'll continue to lie to cover their lies.

1 of 2 things will happen in 300 days
1. The guy will be spot on and prove me wrong in which I will humbly apologize or
2. he will be exposed for a fraud and never heard from again

I for one hope he's right because I love reading about spoilers and he's a Star Wars fan so I'm rooting for him. However, when logic creeps in, it sure seems like this guy is full of it.

TD;LR I don't believe a word MSW says anymore

 

In all honesty, other than characters, I think we're way off, both solo's will already be intune with the force, rey will go to luke as she has felt the awakening, I don't think it will take her a full movie to find him. That's not how star wars works. Princess leia was found in half a movie by the sketchiest of details.

 

Saying that new comers won't be bothered if lukes only in the last 5 minutes.

 

Okay guys so let's play a bit of a prediction game... What do you think is the next MSW scoop? My money is on the following, that Kylo Ren is actually Darth Vader reincarnated and that there is a post credits scene in which Luke is speaking to force-ghost Obi Wan and suddenly Nick Fury walks in wanting Lukes' aid to defeat Thanos and Obi-Wan is surprised in seeing Mace Windu.

 

Easy answer - he won´t. If Luke has only one scene, at the end of the movie, this scene is a "surprise" for the audience - behold, Luke Skywalker himself - and he won´t be in the trailer - if he does, only masked or hooded one second shot...

 

Well it is when you take it out of context.
The reason I brought it up is because we were discussing "trying to please the fans" (whatever that actually means).

Lucas on Yoda whipping his saber out and flipping all over the shop, during the making of doc: "This is the moment everyone has been waiting for."

My point was, surely just making a good, coherent, exciting movie is the ONLY real way of pleasing the fans.
If I could imagine better films than the ones that get made that I like, then I'd probably be a filmmaker myself.
Otherwise I just let them get on with it and not worry about what people misguidedly "want to see" - and decide whether I like or dislike the end result when I see it.

All I've been saying from the start here is, I don't see it being a big issue if Luke is not onscreen in this film a lot. I'm not saying he is or is not - I couldn't possibly know that - but I don't see how this being a good film could possibly hinge on that one thing. It's certainly not a deal-breaker for me by a long chalk.

That's what I'd expect too. Can't guarantee he'll be in this movie as much as Guinness though. Maybe a lot more needs to be established before we get to the point our new "Luke" meets his "Obi-Wan" mentor. It could be structured so that this plot point is the first movie's resolution.
But then again it might not.
The fact remains, we haven't seen a great deal of spoilers pointing to Luke actually doing much in this movie.

I'd go so far as to say I would imagine he would have to die or become the big bad himself at some point during the course of these three movies. I'd say the "problem" which ultimately needs resolving will have to be the new generation's problem, and they will have to overcome that - in the end - on their own, through their own choices and experiences.