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SPECULATION Mara Jade Skywalker and Knights of Ren theory

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by McDiarmid, Apr 22, 2018.

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Will you like it.

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  1. AstromechRecords

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    Yes it is because of midichlorians but the skills are what really counts regardless...
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    I think your idea is possible. SW has always had a strong story building structure around adoptive parents (which could easily explain Rey's "parents" from her memory of 5). I'm of the mind that RJ wanted her to be random, JJ wanted her to be Skywalker (based on each of the movies) and the idea was they'd have a 3rd director to make the final decision, but now that it's JJ.... it could still go either way lol. So I'm saying there's a chance, and I'm talking better than Lloyd Christmas and Mary Swanson chance (dumb and dumber).

    At the same time, she certainly doesn't have to be a Skywalker. I personally think it fits better (explains off some of her power and natural talent better than what we currently have imo) but it depends what direction they want to go in. For those who say it undermines the message of TLJ, I don't think so, since to me the message of TLJ is.... GOTCHA! haha

    Seriously though, it could be made plausible. I think with the death of Carrie Fisher (RIP), having a Mara Jade like character could make sense. She could be that cool aunt or even a mentor for a time for a young Ben. Maybe all this "force users can be just as powerful random as Skywalkers" will be revealed as just your own head canon? Maybe Mara was chosen like Shmi in this version and that's how we had Rey? Randomly chosen to a force user. Would that satisfy?
     
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    This is the last chapter of last Skywalker trilogy,and of Skywalker saga.
    Just one last film, "just one season".

    They will make dosens more Skywalker-free Star Wars films afterwards without any Skywalker entanglement if they not want to.

    But if they think that they should not oblige piety to Skywalker family which was so much loved and identified by millions of fans for decades, in the last chapter of what they themselves suggestively call the Skywalker trilogy,than they are making big mistake, since many fans will be hurt.(already are).

    It is the fact, there is no rationality in this ,actually, and arguing, many fans will be hurt, it is established fact, simply as that.

    It is on them to chose are we group of negligeable idiots that foolishly live in the past, or do we (despite meaybe actually be so) still deserve respect , in just one last film of Skywalker saga, for our strong attachment to the old foundations upon which they are now bulding their future bussines.
     
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    Exactly ;);)..
     
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    So, do people not realize this was not supposed to get out? It's a code name! Like everything else. Solo's codename title was Red Cup. I looked up That Hashtag show thing. A lot of their articles are clickbait in nature. So take it with a grain o salt.
     
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    My guess is that there will be no Mara Jade in IX. Interesting speculation though. JJ's got a big enough task on his hands as it is and IMO, adding a complex character like Jade would just add more thorns. Even if the character would end up being borrowed from the Mara character, it still seems pointless to even resort to that. Why not just create an all together brand new character in the first place? I guess what I'm saying is that I'd hate to see an awesome character like Jade watered down into something other than THEE Jade. Nah. She won't be in IX. The whole thought of it just seems......wrong. I would love to see her on the big screen in a spin off or perhaps in the new tv series but with what we have left to work with in the Skywalker trilogy, her addition would be awkward, and very out of place. Yea I know. Mara Jade in the ST shouldn't be awkward right? On the current ST trajectory, it just is. IMO of course.
     
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    There is one thing I'll concede to: out of all the names to choose from, they choose "Mara"? Its suspicious, I'll give anyone that who believes its the Mara Jade. But if anything, it'll be like Ben Solo and Jacen Syndulla. Completely different characters, but they may have one thing common.
     
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    Mara Calrissian? : D
     
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    they've done it on purpose.. the question is why? what are they up to?

    the least likely answer is that they are casting for Mara Jade.. as much as that will dash the hopes of those that want it.

    a likely answer (knowing how JJ rolls) is that it's diversionary. He wants to cast an important character in ep9 and thinks that leaking 'Mara' might throw off some of the bloodhounds?
     
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    Who says she's so much more powerful? Where does it say that?
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    Exactly my thoughts. Those names are always "moving around" in Star Wars.

    Kira was original Lucas idea for desert scavanger girl which later became Rey. They used codename Kira during casting for Rey.

    Now, if we apply analogy they could be using codename Mara as a template for the character which will have other name however has some properties of Mara , like, been mother of Rey .
     
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    You know it's typically to use codenames in productions to prevent the real role names from leaking. So her being called Mara is no spoiler.

    Mara is a shortened version of the name Maria. Maria means "loved by god". Maybe this shows us what her role in IX will actually be. Yes, Maria was also Jesus' mother, so "Mara" could be Rey's mother, but this also means Luke isn't the father then. Because the father of Jesus was God and not Joseph. Mara could be Rey's mom and her father is the force itself. It's Shmi all over again. Haha!
     
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    Ok, I love what you said and understand...but let us draw bottom line....

    I found in one source that there is 137 000 possible female names on the planet , jet they chose Mara, in Star Wars casting?

    Give me a break people.

    Its deliberate teasing,they knew what are they doing.

    Its a start of episode IX hype campaign.

     
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    Right now this whole Mara stuff is just a rumor and not confirmed at all. That's the real bottom line here.
     
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    mind experiment:

    Vusualize,...someone decided that character casting name will be Mara.

    Question:

    Did he chosed Mara codename because his grandmother had name Maria , or was he thinking of only Mara in Star Wars?

    History is telling they chose always names from Star Wars lore.

    ..so we are closing to inevitable fact--Mara casting name is inspired by no other but Mara Jade.

    So we have proven that J.J Ambrams ( if someone meet him, give big hug to this man in my name) is casting a woman character which casting codename is inspired by no other character but Mara Jade (Skywalker).

    Wow.


     
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    Kira (Rey), Sam (Finn), Rose (Maz) etc are all non Star Wars names. So much for your history.

    Well, a lot of people thought the name of Starkiller Base was inspired by Galen Marek aka Starkiller. Or Galen Erso was insprired by Galen Marek too. We know that wasn't the case at all. Same goes for Mara.

    If that's the case then JJ is pretty stupid because he spoiled the whole movie. But that's very unlikely because JJ loves mysteries.

    Don't get me wrong. "Mara" could be Luke's wife or Rey's mom, but definitely not both. TFA and TLJ told us already that Rey is no Skywalker.
     
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    Nothing is spoiled,only anticipation and debate exploded as intended.
    Mara syndrome has been successfuly delivered.Who knows what's next.
     
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    Oh come on, they are using 'Mara' as a casting call to mess with us, and we're falling for it. If they were actually casting Mara Jade or Luke's wife they would NEVER put out a call for Mara. I mean if I was making the movie it would be so tempting just to play these sorts of jokes. It could be Ahsoka though.
     
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    Star Wars is heavily inspired by Buddhism and in that lore, Mara is a demon who uses beautiful women to seduce the Buddha. So here is a possible interpretation- Mara is Snoke's other apprentice who was sent to seduce Luke and turn him to the dark side. His losing his wife/true love to the dark side prior to setting up his new jedi order and subsequently losing Ben Solo as well might have broken him. This could explain Luke running off to Ahch-to, wanting the jedi to end and to kill himself.
     
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    I seriously doubt Lucasfilm is twirling their evil mustaches in the way that you just described.
     
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