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New and old vehicles in Rogue One

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Star Dude, Apr 12, 2016.

  1. Star Dude

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    Can be that those new imperial shuttles with the four downward folding wings are a logical extension to the two existing types known to be in service. With their abundance throughout the trailer and their obvious size, I guess that they fill in the function as large cargo/troop transport.

    • Lambda-Class shuttle small transport (20 passengers or cargo)
    • Sentinel-Class Shuttle medium transport (75 passengers or cargo)
    What is your guess, will they also get a Greek letter for the name?

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    The one in the explosion pic does look like it is carrying one of those yellow cargo pods that the AT-ACTs have in their mid-sections.
     
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    DeltaClassShuttle.jpg

    OK, at least for Krennic's new stealth (?) shuttle the answer could have been given by myself if I would have used that miracle thing called “internet”, as all of mankind’s wisdom and other stuff is to be found in its depths…

    With its starkly geometric hull shape and folding bat-like wings, the approach of Delta-class T-3c shuttle is an imposing sight. Once it lands and deploys its passengers - the cruel Director Krennic and his squad of elite death troopers, all sense of dread proves extremely warranted.
     
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    This isn't Krennic's special ship because there are many of them in the latest trailer alone .
     
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    Hm, are you sure you’re talking about the blackish shuttely thing from the picture above with the three wings and identified as the Delta-class T-3c shuttle? I don’t mean the cargo shuttle with the 4 down folding wings that is abundant throughout the trailer.

    Could you pinpoint the multiple sightings in the trailer? I just saw it once during the X-Wing night attack on the rocky planet during the rain storm.

    If it’s for the Delta-class T-3c, the official description in the London celebration exhibition reads “ “Krennic’s Imperial Shuttle”, same as on the Lego model box. But maybe those guys are mistaken or want to give a false trail. ;)

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    From what I saw it looked very similar to the first few seconds of the trailer with ships having 4 wings folding up.
     
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    I actually see the P-61 Black Widow night-fighter to be an exact influence (oxymoron?) on the ARC-170 with the multiple manually operated turrets, including an aft one.

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    Its actually pretty much on point.
     
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    Planes with turrets in the aft from WWII and the Vietnam area where also influencing the (4-men seater) TIE designs with rotating quad-cannons from Doug Chiang for TFA. I wonder if those will be re-used somewhere in the SW universe.
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    Actually, the aft section of the TIE Striker has also such a knobby ring section as the concept art, but without the 4 barrels, at least from what I can see on the exhibition photo. I wonder if that means something.

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    Yeah, that's super accurate. So many plane designs from that era, I lose track of them all.

    Oh look, it's an analogy for all the different designs we are seeing in R1!
     
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    Yes, and some of those designs will prevail the trials of intergalactic warfare, and others will perish along the road.

    ;) Or just ends up in the hands of pirates that can't effort new most expensive ones for their fleets.
     
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    A impressive arsenal of rebel/imperial warfare will come together in December.
     
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    Does anybody else also gets vibes from the interior of that U-Wing that are completely way of from what we had encountered in Star Wars before: From the look & feel of the sterile white corridors of the Tantive IV to the rusty old cramped Falcon.

    Look at the troop compartment, the especially ceiling structure with the hook-up shackles as being for paratroopers, also the colors and even that backpack reminds me more of WWII and Vietnam then of any previously seen Star Wars styles. It’s a bit as the interior of a Douglas C-47 back over the Normandy, it’s so functional and used. Way different then the LAAT from the CW. But then, form follows function.

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    Looks more like one of those drop ships, maybe Bodhi is flying. just for scale comparison the U-wing drop sequence.


    Now when that hatch opens you see a white triangle in the corner here.
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    and here it is again on the hatch.
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    You're dann right! So we have a new drop ship not identified yet, good catch!

    But the WW2 vibe lingers on...
     
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    Well its kind of like what happen to all the cool stuff the Nazis actually did come up with. They designed it, made some, then just couldn't continue because resource depletion (Tiger tanks, Me262 jets, etc.) or because Hitler was nostalgic (STG-44 assault rifle).
     
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    The drop ship in that scene must be a stolen Imperial ship. The one from TFA and the drop ship from R1 even have the spotlight on the front right, as well as the same ramp design. Bodhi is climbing into the pilot's area up a ladder from the main compartment.

    [​IMG]

    Though it looks like this Imperial design varies from the FO one by having the pilot area further forward, more parallel with where Phasma is standing in the drawing above.

    Which makes me wonder, where does the U-Wing come in?

    If the scene @Rieekan posted of it dropping guys off is on Scarif, are they coming in as support for the escaping Rebels who have already stolen the plans? I think we can assume they have to use a stolen Imperial ship to get down there unnoticed.

    I'm a bit confused as to which ship drops who where...
     
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    I think Scarif is the end for the U-wing.
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    That imperiual vessel could be used as a troyan horse, when you want into a certain battle station unrecognized.
     
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    After your posts I took a closer look on the set photos that were published back then to get more information on the second drop ship most likely to appear. It clearly has nothing to do with any U-Wing! And I like the idea of a Trojan horse a lot. From the background in the trailer and all the orange clad rebel pilots running around in the background, they seem to start of on Yavin also with this one.
    orangeThingRamp_03.jpg

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    What gets me I wondering is the orange addendum of the ramp. This could either be a none-on-screen element supporting on set for the shooting, or it could be an in-movie element that will have some significance on screen. For one part, it looks clearly too much separated from the ramp part by color and design, but on the other hand the exact orange tone fits exactly other elements we already saw in usage by the empire: The small transport boxes found on the same set and on back of the tanks riding the streets on Jedha. And also the large container like objects carried by the AT-ACT and the 4-wing transport shuttle.

    orangeThingRamp_01.jpg

    If the latter is true and the orange is not a coincidence, the (un)boarding ramp could be part of the large container thing that the new transport shuttles are carrying. Maybe a module that can be added if the shuttle functions as troop transport. The grey color of the ramp extension and the shuttles main hull seem to match. Only the similarities with the TFA dropship do not convince me completely on that theory.

    orangeThingRamp_05.jpg

    Which leads me again to the crates: They are transported from Jedha to Scarif (or Jordan to the Maldives). What does the empire ferry around in those? Are the six we see on set the only ones?
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    Then maybe each holds a big Kyber crystal to finish the Death Stars laser on Scarif. Although the DS has 8 emitter with Kyber crystals.

    But if the crystals were to be (re)fitted above Scarif in the emitter dish, the Death Star could not have used it’s full laser power on Jedha in the story before. But this was mentioned by you guys already before in other threads as well. ;) I’m quite sure that the Scarif scenes are chronologically later than the ones on Jedha.
     
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    Y-Wings will bomb imperials on Scarif in ‘Rogue One’! (hopefully) ;)

    AssoultScarif.jpg

    If those micromachines toys are indicating anything, the TIE Strikers have to defend the base on Scarif against incoming Y-Wings. Wouldn’t it be cool if they try get the good guys out of trouble by making a bombing run on the AT-ACTs that Baze’s rocket launcher just scratches?


    Also, there’s a chance of the Mon Calamari cruiser to make an appearance.
    MonCal.jpg


    As speculated earlier, the orange containers on board the AT-ACT seem to be removable.
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    Hey, you could fly a snow speeder through it!


    Where did I see such a tropical environment with nice beaches, the surf, palm trees and tree lines before?!
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