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SPOILER New Plot and Character Rumors!

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Viral Hide, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. Trevor

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    So Jason, let me pick your brain:

    I had someone pick my brain today about MvS playing Antron Bach (see his Wookieepedia stub) in TFA...it aligns loosely with some of the initial rumors that have been conveyed to us. PM me if necessary.
     
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    I have my doubts that BB-8 is Poe's. While it does play into the "R2-D2 is really Obi-Wan's droid" angle from ANH , does it really gel with the "poe is the solo of the film"? Solo's contempt and sarcastic nature towards C-3P0 was actually one of the best comedic parts of the OT. Maybe i'm clutching at straw's here?

    Secondly, while i know the "Rey is a Solo" rumour has been around for a long time, the thing at always bugs me about this is the concept art of Rey living in the AT-AT. Something just doesn't sit right with me on this rumour. The AT-AT concept art paints a picture of a lonely young woman who has toughed it out her whole life on a crappy sand planet and has made do with very little. So if she is a solo did she get seperated from the solo family? Did she run away? I'm finding it quite hard to link the two ideas. Any help?

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    If this is correct, and the lightsaber is key, then this plays into the rumours t that Finn feels an "awakening" and maybe has received visions or "whispers" that the "girl with the blue lightsaber" can lead him down the right path?
     
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    Certainly a very interesting read. Though I remain skeptical of such things...

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    I agree about the concept art of her living in an AT-AT yet is the daughter of Han and Leia doesn't really make sense.....unless that's the point. They call her "Rey" early in the film and we see her living like a scavenger, then later it's revealed she's the daughter of Han. Possibly when they meet up the first time. Whoa, big reveal, the audience gasps! I can see a scene where she refers to her father as Han instead of dad and he corrects her like Bruce Willis corrected Liv Tyler in Armageddon. "Kira Rey Solo, I really wish you'd call me dad!" "ok Han...dad."

    One question, if BB-8 is Poe's droid, does he fit in the X-wings Astromech compartment? How does he get up there? Ramp? Rocket boosters? Hmmmm.
     
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    I know what you're saying about Rey being a scavenger and a Solo doesn't add up, but a scavenger with two vehicles?

    Maybe (as I've jokily posted before) she's a student or archaeologist who is on Tatooine for research? Maybe she's obsessed with her uncle and grandfather's sandy origins? Or simply undercover?

    The first thing I thought when I read BB-8 is Poe's droid is, that's because Xwings use Astromechs. But there are no Astromechs visible in the Xwings in the trailer (doesn't mean they're not there, though) and BB-8 is just the wrong shape for a co-pilot slot. More likely Poe is with R2-D2, perhaps?

    "Finn loves the light saber [Rey] has." We all love light sabres, but is this seriously the catalyst for our new Jedi hero's awakening? I doubt it. And if we are having sabre wielding Chrome Troops, wouldn't Finn have seen one before? I don't buy this, it just seems twee and hard to sell. Bit like someone seeing a hair brush and realising they were born to be a barber -- it doesn't sit right with me, somehow.

    Only way this could work is if we, the audience, are led to believe its the light sabre that Finn is drawn to only to later learn it was Rey herself: Finn was picking up on Rey's force sensitivity and wasn't aware enough of his own to recognise it. I guess.

    "[Finn] confides in [Rey] his wishes to defect and Poe convinces [Rey] [Finn] is a good guy." Okay, this is odd. Why would Rey take Poe's word for anything unless she knew him, or was a rebel sympathiser and knew Poe was part of the rebellion? And if she knows that, how? Are the rebels regular visitors to Rey's desert world? Why is it so important Rey believes Finn anyway, and why is Poe so willing to vouch for him?

    And where the hell is Plagueis while all this is going on....
     
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    I've had a feeling ever since the names of the characters were announced that there was a possibility that not all of them were going to be official. Think about it; as secretive as this whole film has been so far, doesn't it seem slightly strange that the official names of all of the characters we saw in the trailer would be so casually released? I think J.J could be generating hype/speculation and then surprising us all upon the release of the film by revealing the true identities of the characters. I'm not saying this is true, but I do think it could be a possibility.

    But on a side note, if the announced names of the characters are official, pay close attention to all of them. There's Kylo Ren, Poe Dameron, BB-8, and then Finn and Rey. Notice anything? The only announced characters that do not have a revealed last name are both Finn and Rey. Maybe that's because they don't want us knowing yet for some reason? Or maybe not.....? I guess only time will tell.
     
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    Thanks for the info guys. Only time will tell if it is true but I like the sound of it. I won't be upset at all if it turns out close to this.

    It has been speculated on here before that Rey might be an alias and most of us have already agreed she is likely a Solo or a Skywalker. Whether she is or appears to be a scavenger does not need to make sense now because that will play out in the arc of her character. She either knows her true identity and is lying low using an alias to stay hidden or she does not know her true identity and Rey is what she believes her name to be as that is the name that her guardian (MVS maybe) has always called her.

    If this speculation is true, then Poe sounds like he is going to be a badass. I think he will end up being a crowd favorite.

    Not sure what to think about the whole Finn loving the lightsaber angle

    BB-8 starting off as Poe's will be a cool twist that none of us has speculated on.

    Bring in a Jedi Killer. I'm down with that.

    Whether true or not this kind of info continues to get me excited for this movie. I can't wait.
     
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    I have to agree with Making on BB-8 being Rey's droid. Doesn't make much sense that it would suddenly be Poe's.

    I looked at the comments on the article, and the ones involving Rey make me depressed :(
     
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    Dang! That does ring a bell! lol....
     
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    Yeah but what you're not realizing is that's CORUSCANT in the concept art and trailer. Not Tatooine! :eek:
    The galactic recession and civil war has really taken it's toll over the last 30 years.
    :D
     
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    Well I didn't see much sand on Coruscant this planet Finn was on obviously must be Tatooine the landscape fits.
     
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    Of course there's sand on Coruscant. It's sand. It gets everywhere....
     
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    oh sweet jesus no, not that scene, AHHH burn it in the lava streams on Mustafar
     
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    Up late and thought I should say a little something.

    I passed along this link to one of my little birds. They said whoever this person is sounds very confused. Some of it lines up with broad truths, but as far as they know, the way the new three meet is not as described in this article. I'm not calling anyone a liar here, but from what I heard the source got some bad info.

    One thing I've heard that is in stone is that Rey is an orphan. She is not a Skywalker or Solo, but is only related to them by the fact she was Luke's apprentice before he went underground and she ended up on Tatooine. Maybe my source is completely wrong, but that's one thing they have been adamant about. Plus, there is a rumored YA novel series in the works for her character pre-TFA, and a major theme is the trauma of her parents death.

    Another thing, and especially if the Han Solo vs. Boba Fett stand alone film turns out to be true, I don't think Han Solo is going to die in this film. That seems like an incredibly predictable plot device. My little bird is not sure about this, but an educated guess lead them to say Han Solo will be around when the credits roll for TFA. I would bet good money my little bird is correct on this.

    As for the codenames and Kira/Rey deception, my little bird said the codenames they saw were not at all clever in nature. "VILLAIN SHIP INTERIOR" was a generic example given to me. EMPIRE was differentiated from VILLAIN though, which I thought interesting. The name game was something they seemed in the dark about as well. On materials dealing with characters they saw the actors last name was used as a placeholder to what their general role in the story was, ie BOYEGA-HERO. They said a name game probably went on, but they said that reading into it was probably a dead end in trying to pick up plot points, as its very unlikely Lawrence Kasdan and JJ Abrams had anything to do with something as mundane as that. Especially with the extremely tight schedule of producing a tentpole, high budget film like TFA.

    Just my thoughts. Viral always does a great job of sharing things and letting them speak for themselves. This article is very interesting and I always enjoy hearing anything that might give more insight. Everything in that article could be absolutely true, I could be absolutely wrong, but we are all most likely somewhere in between.
     
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    @MakingStarWars First of all I can assure you that this source haven't seen the posts on MSW you quoted. If some of the info matches with what you said, then we should be really happy, because this means that it's now backed up from another place.
    Also this article had been written more than 2 weeks ago. I finally decided to post it yesterday.

    Our source says that Poe confronts someone called JK. And you say that JK is a scavenging droid. I don't see any similarities here.

    I think it's interesting that this is the first time we hear the production names "Tilt-A-Whirl", "Catapult" and "House of Mirrors". Surely the ones you mentioned are not all of them.

    That's what makes this report even more interesting. I like that it defers from the stuff we've heard before. And it would be really easy to find out how accurate it is.

    We sure do. And it's interesting that this source didn't want this info posted at all. And we removed plenty of stuff. He is not feeling comfortable. And even he said that many of these bits could be wrong, but that's not because he made them up. That's how it is on such productions.

    And the best part is that there are several specifics that could very easily debunk this source. We just have to wait and see. Until then I think this report was interesting enough to share. Can't wait to hear more.
     
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    King3000 once upon a time mentioned/teased a "Hall of Mirrors" in a post on August 31, 2014. I don't remember him elaborating further on that. Of course I document all this stuff. Even if I don't necessarily believe it or disbelieve it.
     
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    As I said this is a new source and only time could tell. Still I think it's pretty bold move if he made this up, especially seeing how it defers from the rumors we've heard so far. And yet it's kinda similar.

    BTW @Kyle I don't know if your sources are the same as before, but in the past there were at least 3 stories from them, that were completely debunked. No offense mate, but they are yet to prove themselves. I hope you don't get this the wrong way, I really love your stories and hope some of them turn out to be true.

    Absolutely! Me, you, @MakingStarWars we all do this with good feelings. No one is trying to lie to the fanbase and I'm really pissed when someone says we do this just for the clicks. We are all in this together, trying to uncover more about out favorite movie.

    Still you might find it funny but actually in the last few months I'm trying to stay away from all TFA spoilers out there. I really don't want to know it all, and I'm sure many of you feel the same way. We received many concept arts but we decided to let them be. People tried to sell us even more but I refused. I think Jason is doing great job describing them, no need for us to do the same.
     
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    Sorry, it took me so long to get back to you. As for your direct question -- we have other things that he told us that we haven't shared, as Viral already mentioned. BUT overall until we see other things we won't know for sure if he's 100% correct. AND, like everyone else's "sources," it's unlikely they know everything and therefore shared everything accurately. During this process there are alot of changes so sometimes we could be getting outdated info.

    Also, we did do a lot of editing of this article. We originally had direct quotes that we changed the wording of at the request of the source, so IF there is some confusion it may be because something was lost in translation on my part. Apolgies if this is the case, but I filtered the info as cleanly and clearly as possible to preserve the relevant content while changing the wording.

    Lastly, the Poe owning BB-8 thing is something I'm personally skeptical of given the fact that X-wings don't look like they are equipped to carry droids. BB-8 is small, but I can't see him carrying the droid around in the hull of the ship or something. However, in these cases we try to leave our personal opinions about the info out, except in cases where we do a roundtable specifically to share our opinions.
     
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    Well, he can't be any worse than David Prowse spoiling the big plot twist to The Empire Strikes Back in a local newspaper...
     
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