Official Episode VIII - Kylo Ren Discussion Thread

exactly. this is why i have little hope for Phasma and Hux. : o (
they've no one to advocate for them or to whom they can actually return.
ostensibly Hux may have a mother somewhere, but it's doubtful he remembers much about her or has any desire to reconnect.
and Phasma has burned all of her bridges.

all that said, i still hope that if they are not killed outright (which they probably will be), that they are dealt with compassionately by whatever governance is left standing once the smoke clears. it would certainly be "something new" to see a form of galactic justice that is not merely "kill them all in the final fight" or a straight up execution.

 

Phasma should be killed by Snoke or Kylo. I want a badass death scene for Hux. Everything is lost but he keeps on fighting. #CutlerBeckettVibe

 

i'm torn between Hux being captured or killed.
killed is probably more merciful all things considered because i'm not sure he can be reasoned with at this stage.
but some part of me thinks it would be really interesting to take a character like him and try to reform him.
it's just such a waste of so much potential ~ but as you said, there has to be tragedy here and we can't save them all.

 

I just want to see Hux dying on his ship, the Finalizer. It's the perfect ending storywise. He will sacrifce himself to hurt the Resistance. The funny thing is I could see a similar ending for Poe. Haha!

 

if he has to die, yes, let it be on the Finalizer. i would love to see the Finalizer go out in a spectacular blaze of glory! : D

 

To be honest, I can see all members of the main trio (Rey, Finn and Poe) sacrificing themselves in name of one another.

 

Rey's not going anywhere. Not only is she the main hero/character of the ST and in all likelyhood the Jedi/Force user and Skywalker that will carry the saga movies forward after Episode IX - she is the first and poster child for Lucasfilm/Kennedy's "strong female hero" drive regarding Star Wars. Hell, she turned out as a Mary-Sue because they were so worried about her looking strong they couldn't give her any faults. They aren't going to take that character and kill her off, even in a heroic way. Hell, be surprise if she loses a limb - I'm sure she'll be the hero/skywalker is good enough to never lose a fight - unlike her father and grandfather.

She's protected not just because of her place in the story (now and in the future) but because of what she represents for Lucasfilm, Disney and Kennedy. The first of that "drive" isn't going to be treated badly or negatively in anyway.

I also don't think Poe means enough for a a sacrifice to be meaningful. I know there are 3 new heroes, but really TFA was about a duo with some supporting characters. I think if Poe does that way most of the audience will be "oh, thats to bad" and not really affected by it (think if Lando had died in RotJ - nowhere near the reaction of Han did).

 

TFA was about the new trio of this ST: Rey, Finn and Kylo Ren. Just saying.

 

sure, by that logic the OT about a quartet - Luke, Han, Leia and Vader.......

 

No, because Vader isn't considered to be a main character. At least not in ANH.

 

Same role as kylo

 

No, the antagonist of ANH was Tarkin. He was the one that was in charge (even Vader listened to his orders) and the main plot of the film - delivery of Death Star plans and its later destruction - revolved around an object that Tarkin was in charge of. Sure, Vader had more screentime, but so did he in RotJ when compared to Palpatine, and that doesn't change Emperor's status as the antagonist of Epsiode VI.

 

And there is where you are wrong. Ren is a main character. Some people even think he was the main protagonist of TFA. I wouldn't go that far. But what I want to say is he's more important to the story than Vader was to the story of the OT. Kylo Ren (will become) is the last Skywalker.

 

Lmao - ya ok

 

That's true. Vader was barely even in ANH. Something like 12 minutes of screentime and was definitely not the central villain.

 

Going by your logic, the trio of the OT were Vader, Luke and Han considering Leia had barely any screentime in ANH.....actually change that, even Vader had just about 11 minutes of screentime in ANH.....so basically Luke and Han.

 

LMAO

Ya, stop 100 people outside your house right now and ask them who the villain of Star Wars is

And tarkin had less screen time then Vader, so if that's your metric.....

 

He wasn't the CENTRAL villain plain and simple. But he was the villain of many. And he had impact in all 12 minutes. It wasn't until ESB was it more prominent and he was then the central villain. I don't need to go outside my house and ask anything that is already what it is. I could ask...but it doesn't change anything.

 

Right the villain with half the screen time, who is much less known was the main villain lmao

And you know what the answers will be if people were surveyed

 

You're right, though.

Take the TFA trailer. It introduces Rey,



then the trailer introduces Finn,



and finally, with the longest monologue, it introduces Kylo Ren,




It's blatant that we're going to follow the story arcs of these three characters.



Besides, Poe wasn't even supposed to survive the first half of TFA.