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Official Poe Dameron Episode VIII thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by MagnarTheGreat, May 13, 2016.

  1. LadyMusashi

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    Ahem...

    Empire.jpg TFA-Before-the-Awakening.jpg

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    (Time stamped)

     
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    Big Three is a moniker always given to the heroes, regardless of how much the villain did or how important he is for the story. Those are the guys we follow and cheer for.
     
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    It's been said all along those are the new three.
     
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    You've said in OT the main protagonist is Vader. He's him we see the most in AN?
    I'm not saying Poe is the main character. But how is important, it depends where the story leads...
     
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    Never any doubt.
     
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    First - let me restate. I don't actually think Poe is Force-sensitive. I think he'd showed more potential than Finn.

    Point #1, He would be no where near as styrong asd Rey is. He seemed to resist KR somewhat. But yeah, good point.

    Point #2, Good point. But there are a lot "why did"s or "why did not"s and "what if"s with Force users throughout the canon. Why didn't Luke sense what Ben/Kylo would do and save Han? Why didn't he or Leia see the impending destruction of the Hosnian system? These types of questions are infinite.
     
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    Poe was alive and known to Luke during from post RotJ until His academy was destroyed.

    Why didn't Luke recruit Poe during any of that time?
     
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    Why didn't Leia never trained as a Jedi?

    In addition, why if his parents didn't want to?
    In fact, how did Shara Bey die?
    (And why did the SG kill off the character? Usually, it serves a purporse)

    We can speculate as much as we want.
    I don't see any definitive prove for both cases.
    But I see some interesting things (especially coming out that in the rest of the Canon) maybe they are using to build a story arc/line. We shall see.
     
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    Good point. I still think he's more likely than Finn.
     
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    I agree..
     
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    He may have been only looking for padawans at the time.
     
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    Since Poe was age 4 to 26 during those times, you would think he would recruit him.
     
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    This is why I don't think Finn nor Poe can be Force sensitive without really fudging facts and making either Luke or the FO look like the incompetent bad guy in a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

    We know, thanks to the PT, that midichlorians exist. There is no longer a reason to "miss" a person with a high connection to the force.
    Luke, having known the Damerons, would be able to tell if Poe was force sensitive and capable of using the force. He couldn't check the midichlorians?

    And with Finn, you'd think since the FO is abducting and raising kids they'd run tests for midichlorians. If they are high they either go to Snoke/KOR or are exterminated. (extra sinister)

    It would just seem incredibly, Elmer Fudd of both to have missed it. Unless Force sensitivity is sporadic in terms of it's appearance in different folks.
     
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    Unless the Cosmic Force being dormant kept things like Mitochloreans unreliable. It isn't just Rey that was awakened.
     
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    There's no evidence:
    1- that all the force sentitive people became Jedi.
    2- that that wasn't indeed the case. Maybe the FO do exactly the opposite: may be the look for child with that potential.

    Again, I'm not saying those are the cases. But if the SG wants to take this path, they can. Nothing will contradict what said before
     
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    1. I don't think they need to be Jedi but you'd think by now in SOME media, books film comics, Poe's force sensitivity would have been brought up. There's enough story on him it would be odd if it were ignored.

    2. Then just make them a stormtrooper? Again, that seems very Elmer Fudd.

    If it was being completely dormant, then why were Kylo and Snoke able to use it so proficiently?

    They say there has been an awakening in the force. Not that the force finally woke up itself.

    Just feels like there are a lot of unnecessary loops to make for either
     
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    We don't have to agree, but we can try to understand each other.

    1- The argument is indeed "perhaps" some stuff from the movie and form the comics are hinting to that direction. Or may be used (if they want to) to develop some story lines. If you watch ANH not konwing what's coming next, would you think Leia is force sensitive? No. With both Poe and Finn, things are quite different. At least for some people. Thus they are different: because at least some people doubt, while none doubted 40 years ago.

    2- I don't know... yet. If that's the case, it's a story yet to be told. But for sure Finn was kidnapped, something happened to Rey and we don't know how Shara Bey died (and why the SG decided to kill her off. Something that from a storytelling point of view, you usually do if you want to develop a story line).
    And just to add another idea: potentially, you may have not one, but 3 kidnappings (one succeeded, one partially successful, one failed).

    Things is: we just don't know. But there's nothing to prevent some story lines to be explored. Becasue they wouldn't contradict anything already told.
     
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    I don't know what was going on in the mean time. But they have talked about the Cosmic Force being dormant until the awakening. Other than hearing Lucas pine about the nuances of the Cosmic verses the Living Force I don't know how they work. I simply offered that things might be different than we remember.

    Snoke says there has been an Awakening. The visionual dictionary I think spelled out that it was the Cosmic Force that was awakened I assume during that time Snoke, Luke, Kylo and whoever relied on powers derived from the Living verses the Cosmic Force. I don't know how that works just that they make a distintion.
     
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    I hope Poe meets Luke to ask that question.
     
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