SPOILER Possible Look At Episode 7 Villian

Didn't viral or someone check with their source who said that the person in the concept art actually has a red blade on that light sabre? If that's the case and it is Luke it suggests he really is Sith... and that blows. ...

 

I am still not following how that has anything to do with my post or Mizzlewump's rumors, other than I brought up MVS on this thread. But anyway, I do think Adam Driver is this character (grave robber). I no longer subscribe to the Luke grave robber theory. It could still happen though, since he may be the only person who knows the whereabouts of Vader's armor. However, if MVS was a student of Palpatine, then he could theoretically discover the corpse's location.

 

Blue, Green, Red, A lightsaber is a lightsaber, the color I don't think matters anymore, don't assume if someone has a red lightsaber, then he's the villain, or sith.

 

Not necessarily... while blade colour has typically gone along those lines, I don't think it has to... especially given that Luke may now have found the balance of the Force, and be able to use both sides... or at least think he can...

However, this (if indeed it does) occurs at the Skellig Michael location, at which Driver was not present, but Hamill was... (and yes, it was because you mentioned MvS, which made me think of it... )

 

For anyone who thinks the grave robber is Luke, which I'm starting to fear it may indeed be, who lured Luke to the dark side? Palpatine AND Vader couldn't so who or whatever seduced him is insanely powerful and probably the ancient fear.

So who or what is it? My money is on MVS' s character being it but who knows. A reborn Revan or Bane? Plageuis? All I know is I doubt it's Palpatine as he already failed once with his dad's help. Doubtful he'd do it sucessfully alone a second time

I think that's ludicrously silly and if it is the case that's a major blow to the franchises iconography. Red Sabres are synonymous with sith.

 

Then go ahead and believe that, things are changing in the Star Wars universe.

 

I like the overall design...lightsaber hilt excluded...

BUT...that being said...I will reserve judgement on ANY costume or prop if I'm only seeing a still picture of it. Concept or not. Even if it looks goofy...I have a saying that I go by regarding these situations...."I have to see the costume in motion before I make any decisions." I grew up a HUGE Marvel Comic fan and I would be disappointed sometimes by still costume pics. Later to my surprise watching the films I found myself understanding why the production did what they did and end up loving most of them. I figured out that not all costumes look great if you are looking at it "In a vacuum" so to speak with a still picture.

Just food for thought.

 

That's a very good point about the Skellig Michael location, but is it related to Endor or the grave robber? I believe it's a separate plot point.

 

Nobody? It has been rumored repeatedly that the Grave Robber is Luke, and that Luke is not a cyborg, and etc etc etc... which all muddies the waters...

Look at it this way... if they had Hamill grow a contractually obligated beard to throw suspicion off of him being this character (because they see the character, and think it can't be him, they saw him with a beard) and he has a red saber, which is totally unlike Luke, and pretty much everything to point to it not being him... I would say it's him...

Skellig Michael is, I believe, the castle... not related to Endor... but possibly Yavin...

 

I was attempting to create a census involving people who have insider information of which ones think that the grave robber is Luke, and which ones think that it is Driver, or someone else. However, it's a bit more tedious than I thought. The only source that I know of who thinks that the grave robber is Luke is MSW. I think Kyle and Viral think it's someone else, but I am not positive. Are there other sources that I am missing?

 

I highly doubt Luke just woke up one day and was like "hmm I'm gonna try this sith thing out for a bit and see how it goes"

If he's gone bad he's been lured and has a mission. Luke won't be the main baddy he will be some new entities Vader.

 

I think that TIDMADT may be referring to MSW's speculation, and Kyle's post "Will the real Jedi please stand up thread" on the possibility that Luke has changed before the movie starts and has awakened the dark side. However, even if this is true, I still can't seem to find any information about Luke being the grave robber in Kyle's posts. Also, I believe that Luke being the grave robber was speculation by MSW, and not confirmed by MSW's source.

What I think may be occurring is that Driver is the grave robber, while we have a conflicted Luke.

 

So say this dude is the baddy of Ep7, seems to really tie conceptually to the black knight. Since Star Wars has always pulled from mythology, perhaps we can expect this new adversary to reflect the story arc of that infamous villain. You shall not pass!

 

I was watching rebels the other not and it hit me

"All they have to do is slip past the blade and boom go all Tenel Ka on their opponent"

A hilt made from the blade itself is actually a far more practical guard then what the inquisitor has in Rebels. The danger of cutting off your own fingers doesn't increase at all

Of the many different styles of sword fighting in our world there is no true analogue for lightsaber fighting, the closest being some forms of fencing. With a European style sword a lot of combat involves grabbing the blade and what is basically dirty boxing. Eastern style swords are usually thinner blades with lower quality metal requiring a more deft and gentle touch lest you shatter the blade (something Katanas are notorious for). The closest there is would be the European fencing styles which I feel Star Wars choreographers drew the most from, even then the parry is different, in fencing you usually want to redirect the blade while with lightsaber a you seem to almost catch the swing.

If I'm incorrect I will let an actual expert on sword fighting correct me.

As towards the concept art itself, don't compare it to our old stuff, those works are obviously from very early in production. I'll trust Viral's source, this is probably a later piece. Yes it's Revan lite but I like it. Anyone up for the ancient fear being the Sith Emperor?

 

Good evening, friends!

Got in touch with the usual source, and he/she is sure that has something to do with MVS's character, might even be the full reveal. It's redundant of me to say, but this is the real thing and we may have had a bigger spoiler than we thought.

The interesting thing he/she said was in regards to the lightsaber. The lightsaber was the only thing he/she had seen in pre-production pieces. In some of the artwork and notes he/she saw, this was Drivers lightsaber. The fact that the hilt has two shorter laser-blades is incidental, as the unique function of the lightsaber is to have 3 blades that fluctuate in length when needed. He/she said the concept of lightsaber itself was to have been constructed from the Sith sabers in Driver's collection.

MVS will be the villain in the film, and what I was told repeatedly is not revealed until the end. If he's drinking in a bar, talking to Daisy and Boyega at the beginning of the film, then at the end of the film shows up as the bad guy to rule all bad guys, there is some part of the story I'm trusting will fill in those plot holes. Neither my sources nor I have them.

Sorry I didn't post sooner, but I've been waiting to hear back since I sent out an email this morning.

Exciting times everyone!

 

Just when I thought the MVS villain thing is dead, Kyle has to go breath life back into my favorite theory haha

 

Ask your source about the production paintings showing MvS inside the TMZ "tent" where the auctions happen. Why is he there and old and beaten down and then a super agile "Sith" type later in the film? There's something weird there and it doesn't add up unless he was up for two roles. I spoke to a few people today and kept getting "Adam Driver" not "MvS."

 

A surprise MvS villain reveal can work with what you've been told depending of course on sources and who has what. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen what should've been a frail old man be more then they appeared

 

I think Viral is being very choosy with his words... what he said is that Luke is not a cyborg, but he has never come out and said Luke is not the Grave Robber... what he thinks is anyone's guess....

I don't think he has broken bad... just because he is all suited up and out kicking ass doesn't mean that he is a Sith, it just means his path isn't as meek and mellow as it once was. If he truly has found balance in the force, then he can walk that middle line...

 

I agree.

The only thing I could think of is if at some point that is the form he takes when he appears to Ridley's character to lure her in. Or possibly another form to lure her in being Luke.

I will ask and also point out the TMZ post.