SPOILER Rebels Season 3 Ep 19 "Twin Suns"

I was amazed at how many people were able to identify the stance. I sure didn't on my own, until it was pointed out to me.

It seems to me that he baited Maul. Maul went after him the same way he went after Qui-Gon, probably because of that stance. But Obi-Wan knew what was coming.

 

Yeah, I certainly noticed Obi's stances but didn't notice until now the similarities between his and Qui-Gon's (George writing some more poetry I guess).

I love how they both changed stances multiple times, and the clear reference that that was to classic Samurai films: they were playing out how the battle was going to go in their heads based on stances, and Obi-Wan knowing what was coming is absolutely genius in this case for a simple reason: this isn't the first time that he's learned from that Qui-Gon/Maul fight on Naboo.

So yeah, he certainly learned from seeing how his master was defeated by Maul, but we also saw him learn from hanging and then jumping up to defeat Maul, a move which Anakin attempts to pull off in a similar way during their duel in Mustafar, hence Obi-Wan's claim that Anakin's lost because of him having the high ground: he knows that's Anakin is going to jump over him and try to cut him from behind, as this is exactly what he tried - and pulled off - against Maul.

 

No judgments from me. Just seems like such a high number I didn't know if it was hyperbolic. Needed to know so I could give you your propers.

 

Excellent storytelling.
Really excellent.

Stephen (Stanton) utterly blew me away with that level of "Alec Guinness-ness" in his voice, cadence, and overall delivery. It was DAZZLING– ...literally jaw-dropping.
This indeed is the "Master Kenobi" we've been looking for.

–––

Here's something (important to me), that Obi-Wan has done in this episode– ...He gives a strong sense of place and duty to Ezra Bridger. In the moment of saying: "You're in the wrong place, Ezra Bridger.", by direct implication, there is a defined RIGHT place for him, –which he further clarifies later. (Sure, we likely all knew this already, but it's satisfying to hear the affirmation from such a grand figure within the SW universe.) It made me feel more positive about the Ezra character overall. (Not that I previously despised him or anything.)

The key dialogue also seemed to imply the expectation that Obi-Wan's ongoing storyline will be seperate from Ezra's. [i.e. - I don't expect to see much more (if anything) of Kenobi in future episodes of 'Rebels'. --Not a certainty, just what I feel we're meant to understand here. (?)]

Look at all the attention this episode is garnering! ...Not too surprising, I suppose. ...It was a beauty.

 

Sam Witwer was fantastic. Sad his performance as Maul is coming to an end with this episode.

When we were speculating about Season 3 and if we would have an appearance of any of the main characters from the OT, I thought Kenobi was a potential one and that maybe Kanan and Ezra would look for him joining the Rebellion and that he would refuse. More or less, Ezra was looking for him since he believed Kenobi was the key to defeat the Sith. Obviously, that's who Ezra interpreted it - hence Kenobi's words about the truth is what we make of it - because he had no idea of Anakin's offspring. It seems like our group of Rebels had some of the pieces of a puzzle but not the complete set so they would not understand the bigger picture as Obi-Wan or Yoda. They knew of Anakin, they even had contact with him without knowing it - as Darth Vader, of course.

Bail saying Obi-Wan was dead seemed like a good cover-up for the rest of the Rebel Alliance - even Rex thought one of the Jedi Generals he fought with was dead. However, from Rogue One we see that Mon Mothma had knowledge of a "Jedi friend" of Bail still alive. So, as Kenobi said, the truth is often what we make of it.

 

Ezra says they won't be seeing Maul anymore. He had already left so he didn't see the duel I wonder if he felt Maul die and for that matter did the Emperor feel Maul die as well.

--- Double Post Merged, Mar 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 20, 2017 ---

All fans have to deal with parts of Star Wars they don't like or agree with. Just because it is official won't make it reasonable for everybody. I personally don't buy Vader's redemption. All he did was save his own son from being tortured. What is special about that. There was no real reason for him to be a force ghost but again that is the prerogative of the writers whether it makes sense or not.

 

I totally agree with you. One good act doesn't seem like much of a redemption. If Dahmer's final act would've been saving a kid from being hit by a car, Dahmer dying in the process, I doubt people would find him to be good and redeemed.

 

Best. Tweet. LOL.



And this one is a good observation too.

 

I really like the short dual. Kenobi always thought this day was coming, but Maul seemed shocked to learn Kenobi was indeed still alive. One was prepared, one was still working in the idea of emotional rage.

As for Luke, no reason he can't be the chosen one. We may see that play out in the ST. Hense why Snoke seems so bent on killing him.

I don't see it as an impossibility, but likely we are going to be left alone to believe what we want to believe, from our point of view.

 

I wonder when Maul tells OB1 that the chosen one will avenge them is Maul referring to Darth Sidious killing his brother Savage Opress?

 

Like how im feeling. does Kanan know that Ezra knows Master Kenobi is alive? can he feel it through Ezra? i want Kanan to kno that Obi-Wan is alive. cause right now in the timeline and with viewing, Kanan is the only Jedi alive that is fighting and Vader knows...

 

The quick and lethal death of Maul shows how OB1 has grown in the force. Long duels are for amateurs or a master playing around with a novice sort of how Darth Vader was doing with Luke on Bespin. Or two combatants of equal skill, Ob1 has surpassed Maul over the years.

--- Double Post Merged, Mar 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 20, 2017 ---

LOL I was wondering about the first one too. Glad someone mentioned it too.

 

Now that you mention it, trying to destroy and usurp his master while allying with a more powerful character is very Anakin - and very Sith!

I always felt Obi-Wan (and Leia) stood out in the OT as seeming so self-secure in the niche they had carved out for themselves (Han acted as if he was but I'm not so sure). They contrasted nicely with the characters around them on journey's of self-discovery.

Poor ol' Maul though. I do love how his choosing to dredge up old saber techniques reflected his failure to let go of his past and move on. I guess revenge requires being enslaved to the past to some degree - at the expense of the present probably. The guy could've done with a healthy dose of Qui-gon: "don't center on your anxiety, keep your concentration here and now where it belongs"!

 

I kind of see where you guys are coming from. However, keep this in mind. Vader's act was not only a father saving his son, even if that was the driving force behind his motivation. In saving Luke, Vader not only saved his son, but the Jedi Order as a whole. If Luke dies in that throne room, the Sith triumph over the Jedi is truly complete as the Jedi would be well and truly extinct at that point. Additionally, by sacrificing himself to kill Sidious, Vader actually does bring an end to the Sith Order of that time.

Lastly, killing Palpatine is the true killing blow to the Empire. If Palpatine had survived that encounter, he surely would have had time to evacuate the Death Star. While the Empire didn't seem to die that day, the death of Palpatine was the true mortal blow to his Empire. In effect, the Empire really did that day, they just didn't know it yet. Had Palpatine survived(with the last of the Jedi well and truly gone), I highly doubt the New Republic would have ever become a thing. The destruction of the second Death Star would have been a setback for sure, but it wouldn't have been an Empire killing thing.

Additional side note. We learn in Empire's End that the Battle of Jakku was always meant to bring about the final end of the Empire should Palpatine perish. It was all part of his contingency plan.

So when Vader intervened:

1. He saved his son in a noble final act
2. He saved the Jedi Order
3. He brought about the end of the Sith Order
4. He delivered the true killing blow to the Empire

Even then, I can see why some might not view his final act as redemptive enough, but keep in mind, there were multiple reasons why his final act was important beyond a father saving his son.

 

Obi Wan Kenobi really is my favourite Jedi.If only that arrogant bastard Yoda had send Obi Wan to kill the Emperor the Empire would have ended there !

 

This episode kicked my arse.

Such beautiful imagery, storytelling and scripts. The voice acting was outstanding, and it felt like SIR Alec Guinness was back again - also provided a nice tie in to several eras - PT (Maul), Rebels (Ezra) and OT (Obi-Wan)

Lots of layers to this episode and it absolutely delivered.

That fight.....Kenobi is a cold, calculating bast*rd

All hail Obi-Wan

 

Hail Obi Wan.Harhar.old Obi wans one hit one kill like sword-style is beautiful.

 

And there's another reason this episode is so great: Obi-Wan kills Maul only to find that he still wants to exact revenge to his last breath - as a former Sith - and this is why - amongst many other reasons - Obi-Wan chooses not to kill Vader and perhaps why he declares to Luke that there is no good left in him; he has seen the same lust for power and revenge in Maul as he senses in Anakin.

 

It's definitely the most-well crafted Rebels episode to date. I sincerely hope as time goes on, they reveal more about the thought process that went into the episode. Not that this always makes for a good story, but they seemed very thoughtful of the fans, the history, and the little nuances that would propel this rather small ending for Maul and Kenobi to a story we will probably be discussing for years.

 

Yeah, when all is said and done with Rebels, I'd like a concept art/"Making of" book, that'd make for a great read (and save my favourites list from growing exponentially larger on my phone).