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Reddit, 4chan, internet spoiler board for Episode VIII

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by lighteye, Dec 25, 2015.

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    Now that just sounds terrible apart from R2 bit.
     
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    Especially the "Snoke is the Wizard of Oz" part.
     
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    they lost me at.. 'saw the Last Jedi last night'

    /bin
     
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    They lost me at...Luke is an angry disillusioned hippy and Chewy is a sell out. lololol
     
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    I'm in for the Kylo monologue about Trump.

    Yup.
     
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    They lost me at 4chan.
     
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    Rian Johnson has already said that the movie doesn't touch upon contemporary political themes, so any post saying that the Cheeto-in-Chief is alluded to can be discarded.
     
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    Cheeto? Lol
     
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    I'm not going to turn this into a political discussion, but I'm certainly not the first one to make the comparison.
     
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    It's new to me, but I think I got it haha
     
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    Saving these for posterity and/or so we can look back and laugh at them later:
    The KoR being described as followers is the only thing that feels 'off', since they were there before he joined, but aside from that a lot of this stuff feels like it could actually play out under different circumstances. I'm also a bit hesitant on the "SURPRISE! You thought you were on Ahch-To, but I actually kidnapped you." element, considering that we already had part of that with The Force Awakens.
     
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    Phasma kills Hux? They probably fought over ice cream. Makes sense.
     
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    That's actually a pretty interesting idea
     
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    From the Reddit guy "Phasma kills Hux very late in the movie, it's her last scene. She's deserting"



    Phasma is clearly not loyal to the Order in the new book/comics.
     
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    Her loyalty is mostly to herself. She won't be a deserter. But more like whatever suits her own needs and survival.
     
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    • The first word of the movie is "No"
    Plausible, so is "Yes, The, it, so or Yo"
    • The movie has been described as "very different". What's so different? Rian Johnson's heavy use of flashbacks, not as a quick 'force vision' like in the Episode VII, but entire scenes flashing back to the past through Ben Solo's point of view. This doesn't sound too radical at first, but in practice it's very jarring. It doesn't feel like a Star Wars movie in some ways.
    Why not. The use of "flashbacks" is not forbidden in the Star Wars universe.
    • Kylo Ren/Ben Solo isn't the villain of this movie. He's more the main character and most of his story is told through flashbacks.
    Not a villain?!? After the build up in TFA, the murder of his father?... Most of his story told in flashbacks? I don't buy.
    • This movie is full of plots and characters that mirror eachother, mostly regarding Kylo. The relationship between Rey and Luke versus the relationship between Ben/Kylo and Luke. The motherly relationship between Leia and Poe, versus the strained relationship between Leia and Ben/Kylo. The relationship between Kylo and Luke, and then between Snoke and Kylo. A big theme here is the nature of family. Is family a bond of blood, or something more?
    Mike Zeroh, is that you?
    • Phasma kills Hux.
    Plausible. So is the opposite. Exit Downhill Gleeson.
    • Harrison Ford is credited in The Last Jedi. Han shows up at two points, the first just a voice in Kylo's head (his last words from the previous movie), the second seen with Leia in a flashback (you see a quick glance of him and he says nothing)
    Plausible.
    • After being injured on Crait, Rey wakes up in what appears to be a modest hut, being cared for by none other than Snoke. Not knowing who Snoke is, they have a conversation about the nature of life and the force. Snoke is wearing a modest brown robe and is very kindly to Rey - it's rather strange to see - and it's not until a later scene when Rey realizes she's not on a planetside hut, but rather on a First Order flagship.
    It would be a novelty to see a "modest" hutt in the Star Wars universe.
    • The trailer is very misleading. Luke never trains Rey, the shots you see of her 'training' while he watches on is her acting on her own, while he stands back refusing to be involved (even when she's almost killed by a sea monster). She stays pissed at Luke for most of the first half of the movie. Most of the dialogue in the trainer is not in the movie.
    Ok, it's Karate Kid Part III " IN SPAAAAAACE"
    • There are no Knights of Ren. Kylo had followers when he destroyed the Devaron temple who he called 'the Knights of Ren' but they are all dead. Kylo being 'master of the Knights of Ren' is more of a rank than a practical title.
    Devaron.... why does this smells like... fanboy... wait! I know.
    • The first Jedi temple has writings about the nature of the Force, and detailed the rise of the dark side (which gained in strength as the Jedi order grew). Luke has come to believe that Light casts a shadow, and so if the Jedi exists, their opposite too will exist. If the Jedi end, so too will the Dark Side, and the galaxy can choose its own destiny.
    Sith & Kylo weren't not the real menace in TFA, it was the First Order. If you remove Kylo out of the equation, Hux Jong Un would have fired his Starkiller weapon anyway.
     
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    There's no more Sith in the canon after the death of Vader and Palpatine, Anakin fulfilled the prophecy, Snoke and Kylo are not Sith.
     
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    Try telling that to all the Snoke is Darth Plagues extremists.
     
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    If anything, this is why I really want to see more done with Darth Plagueis as a character - to explain his importance to the story beyond merely being Palpatine's teacher (since the character would provide a solid focal point for several pre-TPM stories), and to clearly establish that no, he isn't Snoke. (Knowing that Snoke is old could also present storytellers with an opportunity to say hey, they met at one point, just like Maz Kanata and Yoda supposedly did.)

    I was on the "Andy Serkis is playing Darth Plagueis" boat early on (before we even knew the title of Episode VII, if I remember correctly), but I got off of it after Pablo Hidalgo denied it way too many times for such thinking to remain plausible. I don't get why the theory has persisted this long after a bunch of people involved have shut it down.
     
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