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SPECULATION Sand Planet - Confirmed to be "Jakku"

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by JayBiggS, Dec 1, 2014.

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    There's nothing in the trailer that states this have to be or cannot be Tatooine. The twin sun thing isn't an evidence as Star Wars doesn't follow space physics anyway (there's no double shadows on Tatooine for instance). This could certainly be Tatooine, and it just as well could be somewhere else. I agree that Tatooine is a likely candidate, since that ball of dust is the most important planet in the galaxy for some reason, but with an appropriate story to back it the planet could also be somewhere else.

    After all, we're not expecting the planet on which the X-wings water surf in the trailer to be Kashyyyk just becasue it has trees AND water. That the trailer planet is a desert planet (or at least a planet with deserts, which could be any one of the worlds we've seen so far - or at least it could if SW followed physics, geology, etc.), does neither prove nor disclude the possibility of it being Tatooine.
     
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    Honestly I feel you'd have to go out of your way to ever conclude it isn't Tatooine.

    I mean, do we think JJ is doing one of his movie gags where we see this planet and assume it is Tatooine but later on in the movie they call it something else? Does that really pay off for the audience? "Oh...huh...thought it was Tatooine but it isn't. Oh."

    As for trying to figure out the rotations of the suns and time of day well I can't knock you for trying but I guarantee the film makers don't have a detailed solar/lunar cycle simulation dictating how the sky is going to look. They just choose whatever time of day and setting they feel will look cool. And let's not rule out the possibility they simply hadn't added in the second sun for that shot of the Falcon yet. After all, the scene does seem to have slightly less refined CG(to me at least).
     
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    Very good points there, JayBiggS :)
     
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    This.
     
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    Official concept art(confimed by giant pig) showing your standard Tatooine moisture vaporater. :)
     
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    Use spoiler tags when showing the concept art. Some users have not seen the images yet and may not want to.
     
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    Oops, sorry about that. Thanks for fixing :)
     
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    I'd guess it is Tatooine. The visual differences we've seen look to be 'retakes' on locations and technology from the previous films - the 'wickermen' are Tusken Raiders redesigned for the film's 2015 aesthetic, just as how the stormtroopers are slightly different but basically the same Imperial drones and in every sense, the 'new' X-wings are 'old' X-wings.
     
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    Just to throw this in there, but since it's a binary system would it not be plausible that at certain times the two stars would "combine" from the point of view from the planet? I'm not up on my physics in regards to such systems, but I'd figure there could be a time of year or over periods of years in which a planet would align in such a way as to hide one star behind the other, even if just briefly. Could even be a particular season of the year when it get relatively cooler and darker.

    That's assuming that no such sort of "orbit lock" takes place in binary systems, so that the planets are always the same relative "angle" orbital-wise over millennia. Anyone who's at least dabbled in such science could help me out here.
     
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    Depending on the angle of the planet orbit compared to the two suns circling each other, this is indeed highly likely. You're talking about a twin sun eclipse, which unless the planet is more 'below' the suns than to the side of them, should happen all the time - possibly even several times a year as the suns are likely to spin freakishly fast.
     
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    What evidence is there that we are looking at Tatooine. Other than sand and desert there are no Banthas, Dewbacks, Krayt Dragons, Womprats, Jawas, Sandpeople, or twin suns in the trailer or concept art. Unless they don't want people to know it's Tatooine, which is the first thing people think of when they see sand dunes in Star Wars, why would they keep it a secret? The omission of imagery that Tatooine is known for makes me believe it is elsewhere, especially one that is in the new canon. Why make a new desert planet, Pasher, put it into a new canon novel if they would not use it in place of Tatooine.
     
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    I wonder if the Biolabs that will be on Pasher in the upcoming Heir to the Jedi novel will be in the movie then if this really is Pasher.
     
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    I can't wait to read the novel, it may be more telling about it. Not happy about the release date being pushed to March.

    I don't know for sure if it's Tatooine or not, but if it was wouldn't the concept art reflect that, everybody is going to assume it's Tatooine anyway.

    I don't know how reliable this source is but read the first post of this thread. Interesting.
    http://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/from-solo-to-something-else.209/
     
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    Unless there is some other terrain besides sand and rocks, everyone would assume it's Tatooine so they better make it slightly different to show it's a different planet.
    BUT when we went to Endor did everyone flip out because it looked like Yavin IV? What about Kashyyk in Revenge of the Sith?
     
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    I just added to my last post a link to an older thread.

    So If they wanted to put ilum in the movie, they can't because it looks to much like Hoth.
     
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    I think it's Tatooine and that Driver and GC have come there to retrieve some artifact related to Anakin, Luke, or Obi Wan. It makes no sense for it to look like Tatooine but not be Tatooine.
     
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    If this were a different planet than Tatooine, it would be far more distinguishable for one thing. Geonosis, for instance, is also a desert planet, but more Mars colored. Moraband is described as a desert planet, but darker and stormy. As for other similar planets in the films, Kashyyyk, Endor, and Yavin IV have blatant differences. Take a look. Kashyyyk has lots of water, fog, beaches, and large mossy rock formations (basically a stormy Hawaii with giant, twisted trees). Endor is sunny with redwood trees and ferns. Yavin IV is a tropical rain forest much like the Amazon. Historically, the production designers have made it clear that these planets have their own distinguishable flavors.

    This one tastes just like Tatooine.
     
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    Valid point, and it does follow what we seem to often see in the films. I do feel the need to point out that we're speaking of entire planets, and it wouldn't be impossible for them to have varying climates and geological structures in different areas. The Tatooine we often think about is usually sandy and all that, but we've also seen very rocky land that can be reddish in color given the correct lighting. Look at the area around Jabba's Palace (the name of that place escapes me).

    I still agree it has that Tatooine taste, just pointing that bit out. ;)
     
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    Exactly! After all, Lucas shot Tatooine scenes in Tunisia AND Death Valley, USA. Odds are, if it looks like a desert on Earth, it's probably Tatooine.
     
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    While I fully accept the marketing sense to have it called Tattione... it's a bit small world syndrome considering the galaxy has billions of planets, and surely in it... there might just be another desert planet?

    Or maybe it's not a desert planet like Tattione? Maybe it's a just desert on a regular planet that also has forrests and oceans an x-wing trip away?
     
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