Should Kylo Ren be Redeemed?

The only way I see it happening is if he sacrifices himself to save Rey, without saying "Oh I'm lightside now!"

Nah, we saw the formation of our next major villain IMO. He just has a tragic story that makes you wish he would be redeemed. Thats what makes him interesting and keeps you invested in his character.

 

*sobs again*

Interesting how Star Wars gives us food for thought regarding our moral views about murder. As old wise Obi-Wan Kenobi would say: "the truths we cling to depend on our point of view."

Do we forgive Anakin for killing all the younglings, force-choking and almost killing his wife, torturing his daughter, killing his former best friend, freezing his son-in-law and severing his son's hand but we don't forgive Ben for killing his father? At the stage of grief I am, I hate the guy for killing one of my favourite characters of the saga but it all will come to how the plot is delivered on the following sequels.

 

I think the question is not Should Kylo be redeemed, but rather can Kylo be redeemed. There appears to be some question about his pivotal scene on the catwalk and whether or not he was honestly upset at the time. I'm surprised that so many people believe him to be pretending to be conflicted to get to Han's guard down. I don't think Kylo would have any problem killing Han even if he knew it was coming. I think we'll know later what Kylo's intentions were, but I felt that he was genuinely upset by what he felt he had to do, kill Han.

 

They're both good questions.

Should he be redeemed? I don't know. I really don't like to tell the movie makers what to do.
Can he be redeemed? I definitely think yes, but there would be SERIOUS consequences.

Redeeming Kylo Ren at this point is a very tricky thing. If you don't do it just right the results could be disastrous. It is certainly easy to just keep him a bad guy, and an amazing one at that.

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Sorry guys, I have been scanning the old threads but I missed this.

 

Kylo will have the Prince Zuko arc, I'm calling it

 

I think a few of us already posted our thoughts on what we think would be an interesting redemption story.

If done well was just my way of preemptimg all those who would say a redemption story "would suck".

 

Well, it depends how they do it. He could be a Anti-Hero of course; Destroying maybe The First Order and Snoke, becoming a Sith Lord of power but not necessarily joining the Resistance or helping rey.

 

I think he will be redeemed. Him killing Han doesn't really do what he expects it to, bring him all the way to the dark. This, to me, is clear because he is obviously distracted and deeply affected when he drives the saber through him. We saw him earlier stop a blaster bolt mid shot yet he does nothing to stop Chewie's blaster bolt. The light is still in him. I would like to see him become a badass jedi in IX who is torn between Luke and Snoke at the end. The real question is, will he become a true Sith at any point? Or are they actually gone?

 

First, I'm just going to throw this out there: if there are no other grandchildren of Anakin Skywalker, Kylo Ren MUST be redeemed and survive the trilogy.
Disney would be stupid to kill off the Skywalker family at the end of the trilogy (an unredeemed Kylo Ren is more likely to die than a redeemed Ben).

Second, Kylo Ren killed his estranged father, after much hesitation, and was so torn up after doing so, he failed to stop the blast from Chewbacca's blaster, and was even unable to bring himself to defeat an untrained scavenger from Jakku..
Darth Vader on the other hand killed younglings, Obi-Wan (kind of), and force choked his pregnant wife, ultimately leading to her death.
Snape killed Dumbledore, but he was redeemed... why is it now impossible for Kylo Ren?

 

LOVE your cartoon, but TOO CHEESY AND CLOCHED AND WELL DONE .

 

"It's like poetry. It rhymes."
They could have Kylo die without being redeemed (as long as there is still another Skywalker out there *cough* Rey *cough*)... but it kind of makes Rey a lesser hero than Luke. Are Disney willing to do that? Are Disney willing to create a strong female hero who fails where the previous male hero succeeded?

Or perhaps Rey is going to turn Snoke to the light side of the Force? That would be a twist.

 

I think that it was likely that Luke has children at his Jedi school when Ren slaughtered them all.

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If Han comes back as a "ghost" and says he's cool with it... then I guess people will forgive Ben.

However for me it's like Anakin, with the original 3 movies it was easy to forgive Darth because I didn't know his history... but once I saw the 3 prequels and knew more about what he had done in the past (like slaughter Jedi younglings)... that was not forgivable. His final good act could not make up for that.

When I know more about what Ben has done, then I can comment.

 

In my opinion;

Kylo Ren has been set up PERFECTLY to redeem himself in a manor exactly concurrent to that of Darth Vader.

He can't be fully redeemed, not in the eyes of Finn, Rey, or Chewbacca at this point. In my opinion, if that were to happen, it wouldn't be believable. I'm sure it could be done, & stranger things have happened, but it's a stretch.

I believe if he is to be redeemed, that doesn't imply acceptance, & he'll never be able to "team up" with our main cast.

I think the easiest, most believable method of profiling his redemption, which I believe will happen, is for him to die in the process.

 

The Skywalker family is a very messed up family, let's just throw that out there first. Should Kylo be redeemed? IMO No, if Rey is Luke's daughter then we already have a light sided Skywalker through her. Kylo IMO is irredeemable after he killed Han Solo like that. Even his grandfather Anakin never directly killed any of his family members (but indirectly killed his step-brother and step-sister in law) And I think he's going to try and kill his uncle next unless Snoke tries to do that. It honestly would feel like a slap in the face for Ben to be redeemed in this trilogy unless he dies protecting Rey from Snoke like Anakin died protecting Luke from Palpatine....

 

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