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Should these films be made? Are they just a cash grab for Disney?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by VOODOO, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. VOODOO

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    I don't mean to sound cynical, but I think this is a fair question to ask from a lifelong Star Wars fan.

    Are these new films necessary or are they just a cash grab for Disney?

    Seems to me that the story of Star Wars (The rise, fall + redemption of Anakin Skywalker) has already been told. What will these new films add?

    Sure they could (they have) come up with new stories in this universe, but is it going to feel tacked on? Will the sequels + spinoff films lessen the impact of the iconic original trilogy?

    As far as Disney is concerned let's face reality. They don't care about cheaping of the SW brand, they care about the billions of dollars that multiple SW films will bring them...Mind you I have no issue w/a company making as much money as they can, but for the sake of this discussion I think it's fair to point out Disney's motives for reviving Star Wars are hardly of a creative nature. It's simply about commerce.

    Another question to ask is it ever a good idea to do a sequel to a classic film?

    Does anybody really want to see Casablanca II or Gone With the Wind II? The stories have already been told + sequels will not add to their impact.

    Episode VII on the other hand is going to be the cinematic equivalent of Abraham Lincoln coming off Mount Rushmore to rule in Washington in the modern era...Will the legend of Star Wars be diminished by these new films? For the most part haven't sequels/prequels proven it's better to leave a legendary franchise alone?

    Didn't the prequels prove that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something?

    My fingers are crossed for the new films, but to quote an old friend "I have a bad feeling about this"
     
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    Yes they are a cash grab. Disney did buy something for 4 billion to lose money. JJ and his cast and crew are doing this because they love star wars and with every new release of info you see the love even more. Who cares if Disney likes money they are giving you new star wars movies with the original actors. Something most people never even considered was possible. Disney and Lucasfilm deserve are respect for that.
     
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    Disney saw an opportunity to make money and strengthen their empire. However, you're wrong on several counts:

    1- George Lucas wrote and was prepping the ST BEFORE he contacted Disney about selling
    2- It won't be "tacked-on" because it came from the original source
    3- Disney does care about the quality which is why they have carefully taken their time with every decision in order to "get it right" for the fans

    Cynicism is good, but in this case misplaced.
     
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    I don't question Abrams motives, nor do I blame Disney for wanting to maximize their investment... That said hasn't the story of Star Wars already been told? What will these sequels add?
     
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    No one knows for sure what they will add. However, as I said, they come from the originator which means they are natural and therefore will be cleverly incorporated.

    Keep in mind that at one point George envisioned 12 episodes.
     
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    New heroes, villains, planets, stories, romances, relationships.
    So much stuff man. You will dig it.
     
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    George Lucas himself is on record as saying there is no more story to tell.

    I also understand Disney has a vested interest in getting it right, but their far bigger goal is to make money.
     
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    Yes, I realize that. But at one point he envisioned 12 episodes.
     
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    Disney did this to make money, that's true.. they did it as Echo-07 said to strengthen their empire?
    but.. i'm certain they are going to do their best to bring us (the fans) a great movie.. and a great line of sequels..

    just as they did it with marvel and others... look at what they've brought from Marvel, while being part of Disney?

    i for one can't complain..

    and i'm going to stay positive, as they at no point have given me a reason not to trust that they know what they are doing.. and that they are going to bring us a great line of sequels! :)
     
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    They absolutely should be made. Like Batman, James Bond or any other set of character universes, Star Wars has an infinite amount of stories to tell both related to the Original trilogy Characters and outside them. We saw this with the EU for the last 30 years. I, for one, am very interested to see what other creative film makers have to do with this universe.
     
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    True, but he also said that those stories were only vague outlines and many of those story lines were consolidated into Return of the Jedi.
     
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    To me Star Wars should never stop. I'm one of those fans that thinks the universe can stand on it's own even without the primary cast. I don't need a Solo or Skywalker to enjoy Star Wars.

    I'll gladly watch anything related to Star Wars. In a lot of ways it'll be all the more freeing for the directors/storytellers to come. Think of all the cool journeys and adventures you could have in that universe? It's limitless IMO.

    It seems Disney agrees. They want to pass on the baton and continue the main saga while also doing 3 spin-offs. I'm still in love with the idea of a magnificent seven styled Star Wars movie.
     
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    I totally agree! I'll do one better -- I think Star Wars has enough gravitas and breadth to sustain the current series, 3 or 4 spinoffs, AND to start a new series during the Old Republic era.
     
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    You could say that any movies are a cash grab. You think movies are made either for artistic reason or formoney grabbing?

    Why not both? From what I've seen, they are making it the right way. Everything I've heard is positive so why not give them a chance to prove it?
     
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    These films should definitely, undoubtably be made! and they are without doubt a massive cash grab for Disney!
    I for one never thought Id see another Star Wars film let alone a series of films In my Lifetime. I was content with the EU and Various cartoons and comics.
    I sincerely hope Disney make a shed load of cash from Star Wars and Im sure they will. I just can't wait to see Episode7 on the Big Screen again and again and then on Blu-ray again and again, literally i'll be throwing cash at Disney and I won't care a bit!
    TBH Walmart could of bought the Star Wars franchise and I wouldn't of cared so long as they were Awesome movies.
     
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    Undoubtedly, Disney wants to make money and will -- they will virtually print it themselves. However, there's a huge difference between creating a quality product, with a vast untapped potential, that will sell versus the cynical term "cash grab" that suggests that the only reason to make the movie is for the money like, say, Transformers 4.
     
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    Anything that gets us all as excited as this is a good thing I think. Regardless of Disney's motives. Their treatment of the MCU is a shining beacon for franchises everywhere. As far as I'm concerned, the OT can't be cheapened. Especially after the PT. It doesn't matter who makes these movies as long as those people understand and care about what makes Star Wars great. For me there's two choices: pretend the prequels never happened, or accept that they happened and that there's plenty of room for redemption. Some of the new movies will undoubtedly be awesome, and maybe some will be bad. But the more movies they tack on, the less significant the prequels will be. I'm happy to accept that as long as we have great directors like JJ Abrams and great writers like Lawrence Kasdan on board.
     
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    It is a cash grab that will result in great Star Wars films and TV programming!

    I cannot wait for that first live-action TV series!
     
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    I actually thoroughly enjoyed Transformer 4!
     
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    Should more Star Wars movies be made?

    Yes.
     
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