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Snoke/Kylo story about Rey parents does not hold.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Dec 26, 2017.

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Rey' parents sold her for drink than died.

Poll closed Feb 11, 2020.

  1. Its had story

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  2. Undecided.

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  3. Its a good story.

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  4. 2 drunkards ?, we dont need thats scum in Star Wars

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    Snoke never said "another Skywalker." Otherwise this would be all over the internet. That scene is clear.
    LOL maybe not.
    @McDiarmid, it might be time to start listening to us. Maybe? :)
     
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    I'm not following you, let's look again at what Snoke said:

    I warned my young apprentice
    that as he grew stronger,
    his equal
    in the light would rise.

    How could he be talking about Luke? Are we supposed to believe Kylo is Luke's equal?
    "his equal in the light would rise" would also seem to suggest someone new, since he already knew about Luke's existence.
    And more importantly as I said before, how does Snoke fit into this equation? if Luke is Kylo's equal then who is Snoke's equal?
     
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    ok, but it proves if Snoke "the Wise" expected another Skywalker than we were also not so stupid afterall.
    HAHAHA::p(Chuckling sarcasm, irony)

    By the way that Snoke's words are easily forgoten in film due to his shocking death miinutes later..but this his talk will be debated.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 26, 2017 ---

    Do not try, he is very intelligent ,and he simply never ever admitts he can be wrong, even in monor thing like this.He will debate for days just to prevent someone think he has maybe just slightly misinterpreted something.
    Do not debate, its proven.    ​
     
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    Wouldn't she be randomly screaming at a spaceship he didn't know anyone one?
     
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    The word "another" is missing. Snoke assumed Luke would be Kylo's equal in the light. Snoke assumes wrong.
    This isn't complicated.

     
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    If it's so simple would you mind addressing my questions as well?
     
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    What's your question? I'm not sure what you're arguing. The quote above is about Kylo Ren/Rey/Luke.
     
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    Luke already existed before Ben..

    Darkness rises, and Light to meet it.Snoke clearly tells about someone who comes after Ben to balance the Force, a Skywalker... he presumed....wrongfuly..(looking at Rey)

    Luke was from before.

    In fact, the existance of Luke is the reason Snoke existed if we take equation of balance.

    Snoke wanted Luke because Luke is his enemy.

    Kylo meet his "true enemy"in Rey,his Darkness met by her Light, whom he should execute.
     
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    I know... I posted the quotes....

    These are my questions:

     
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    As has been pointed out, he doesn’t say “another”. He says that Ren’s equal in the light will rise to meet him. Luke has been missing.


    1. Ren and Luke being of the same bloodline, are equal.
    2. Luke has been missing. Snoke didn’t know why. But when Snoke trained Ren and his powers grew, Snoke feared Luke’s return.
    3. “Snoke is using you for your power”. That line says it all.

    Until I am proven wrong, it might be wise for you to accept my opinion for once ;)

    I was right about ReyLo and Rey random so you’ll forgive me for not abandoning said theories because you don’t get what is going on.

    ?? Not sure what you’re saying here. My point was that her parents could’ve flown to another desert world and died there.
     
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    Just do not take it deep.

    It is not the question of arguments but persistance and ego, this is not going the way you think will go despite its clear and proven. juts..do not..

    everyone will soon have DVD and see it.
     
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    You just never learn...
     
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    Yep
    Yep
    Snoke says he assumes it was Luke. He says Luke so there's nothing to speculate about.
    Just checking, is English your first language? I'm wondering if that's part of the confusion here. Snoke says he assumed it was Luke. There's nothing to argue here.
     
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    I really hope the blu ray with audio commentary comes out sooner rather than later.

    My goodness...
     
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    He never said Luke, that's why we are discussing....
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 26, 2017 ---
    What does bloodline have to do? We are talking about balance between dark and light, are we supposed to believe Kylo is equal to Luke in power?
    You haven't answered how Snoke fits into the equation, the force simply doesn't care about him?
     
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    “Skywalker, I assumed. Wrongly”.

    Who else was he talking about?
     
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    Are you just ignoring everything posted by McDiarmid or myself? He asumed Kylo's equal(Rey) would be a Skywalker, because Luke doens't fit, Luke is Snoke's equal. If Luke is Kylo's equal who is Snoke's equal? Does the force not care about him?
     
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    1.The bloodline meant that genetically Luke and Ren were the same in connection to the Force. So snoke assumed that when Ren rose to power with the dark side, Luke would rise to meet him. There wouldn’t be anyone else that could. He assumed wrongly. He didn’t see a random girl being empowered to meet Ren’s darkness.

    2. Last time I checked, Snoke got cut in half. And from Snoke’s POV he was using others to do his dirty work. It was Kylo who was leading the dark side forces across the galaxy. It was Kylo who he sent to destroy the Jedi. And regardless of Snoke’s current power, Kylo would grow beyond anyone. He had Vader’s Blood. Snoke did not.
     
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    Snoke clearly says (I watched film 3 times, 3rd time picked this moment precisely to clear) that he warned Kylo someone from Light , will rise against him .

    Of course its impossible it to be Luke because Kylo already knows Luke is enemy, nothing to be warned about.!.

    Snoke talks about rising of a new enemy against his "boy", Kylo,... a reaction of Force on Kylo's ascension in darkness.It is in conjuncture of entire film.

    So when Rey comes Snoke says :"Darkness rises(Kylo,he was First), and Light to meet it (Rey).


    And its clear Snoke beleived(obviously considering required power of that new one) that newcomer should be Skywalker...but Snoke says he was wrong.

    Though if Snoke would see her to in fact be a lost Skywalker I am sure Snoke would lie, because that would make Klyo and Rey allies naturally...
     
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    Ok let's say I could agree with that, but you still haven't answered how Snoke fits into the equation.
    If Kylo is potentially stronger than Snoke, so he thought Luke would be his equal, then who was supposed to be Snoke's equal? Why does the force rise to meet Kylo but not Snoke?
     
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