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SPECULATION Snoke's Throne Room

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Porkin's Beans, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. Porkin's Beans

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    If you hadn't seen the new image of Snoke's Throne (from the Star Destroyer play set) here it is:
    Snoke_toy_4.jpg
    And here is what the throne room looks like from the star destroyer playset:
    toy.jpg
    And of course here is the throne room from what was gleaned from the behind the scenes reel:
    behind the scenes.jpg

    And then, I started speculating where the design came from. (Even though, some have probably figured this out anyway.) Just take a look at the original Ralph McQuarrie Artwork back from the OT.
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    Now the throne of course in this pic is the obvious inspiration for the throne itself. But what of the throne room? It looks like there is going to be a lot of red in his throne for the movie, just like you have shades of it in this concept art from the OT.

    However could there be more to it than that? Is Snoke's throne room on his Mega Star Destroyer (The Supremacy) a shadow of a throne room that he might have on another planet. (It's a stretch - I know) The concept art looks like it's set on Mustafar.
    So who knows? Snoke maybe has a cozy little spot on Mustafar beneath Vader's castle, and the throne room on his Star Destroyer is just a home away from home.

    Just a wild thought. ;)

    And if you haven't seen his Start Destoyer, here it is. Ain't it a beauty?! -- The Supremacy Star-Wars-The-Last-Jedi-Sphero-App-Snoke-Mega-Star-Destroyer-Supremacy.jpg
     
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    A clarification - initially a part of Episode VI was supposed to take place on the Capital planet, which at that time was called Had Abbadon. The throne room from the concept art was in a cave under the Imperial palace that was located on Had Abbadon.
     
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    Cool! Didn't know that little tidbit about the concept art. I've seen it many times. I remember that a lot of the concept art used in TFA for the planet Jakku was originally intended for Tatooine. Just like there drawing some inspiration from the Legends for new stories.
     
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    Cool. That's what I said on the Snoke thread. I liked how the throne itself is inspired in the Mcquarrries paiting.
    I hope we will see more of Mcquarrie's designs in TLJ.
     
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    *Looks at the Star Destroyer*

    We are going to need a bigger gun.
     
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    for a guy with such bad posture from the injuries etc it doesn't look very comfortable. where are the cushions & arm rests eh?
     
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    My thoughts on this from a few days back (from the Snoke thread):

    I've been doing some thinking about Snoke, and something about his Black Series figure including the throne conspicuously caught my eye. This could be a long shot, but we're still three months out, so I don't mind sounding like an absolute fool :p

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    The general shape of it, with the consistent use of angular lines and trapeziums, specifically in the form of a throne...seems awfully familiar.

    So, first things first, it's certainly not The Emperor's:
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    But then I realised: this trapezium/pyramid-like throughline is used mainly for one era throughout Star Wars canon, and that's specifically anything ancient and to do with the Force. For instance, we have:

    Great Temple of Yavin IV
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    Vader's Castle on Mustafar
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    Temple of the Kyber on Jedha
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    The Sith Temple on Malachor
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    And so on and so on, I'm sure there are many that I've missed but the point is that these are all designs clearly based on McQuarrie's concept work of Yavin's Great Temple. And then I realised where I'd seen a near-identical throne.

    This is McQuarrie's artwork depicting the throne room in The Emperor's lava lair:

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    A closer inspection of the throne reveals that yes, it is nearly identical to Snoke's throne. But what's my point? Surely I wouldn't just go on for ages to simply confirm that an old but great McQuarrie design was repurposed, right?

    Right. Well, this is where I go intensely speculation heavy for the first time in a long while, so I might be a bit rusty, but here goes.

    McQuarrie's original concept art depicts an underground lava lair for The Emperor. Now, as we know from Doug Chiang's interviews with StarWars.com, Vader's Castle, interestingly enough, was built on the foundation of an ancient - very likely Jedi or Sith - structure.

    It was also revealed that Vader meditated at said lava lake under his Castle, which can be seen as a tuning fork of sorts for the Dark Side.

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    In the Aftermath novels, it is revealed that Palpatine senses a great and powerful source of Dark Side energy out in, or even beyond, the Unknown Regions, and many have taken this as him sensing Snoke. In the novels, it is implied that only Palpatine can sense this, but what if Vader also sensed Snoke's presence through his meditations on Mustafar surrounded by the Dark Side energy surrounding him? We know that Palpatine required satellite surveillance equipment to search for answers off on Jakku, but what if the tuning fork that is Vader's Castle amplifies the Dark Side of the Force, or even just the Force in general, in ways similar to planets such as Dagobah and Korriban/Moraband?

    Of course, then you might ask why Snoke would also reach out to Vader, but what I want to suggest is that Snoke is a returning entity to the known galaxy, hence the similarities in design between his throne and ancient landmarks throughout the galaxy. What if he was seeking the Chosen One? Others have suggested it before, but what if he was indeed the ruler of the ancient Sith Empire, if not even potentially a founding member of the Sith? And, strangely, what if the ancient structure Vader's Castle was founded on was actually a remnant of Snoke's previous stint in the known galaxy? Why he'd leave I'm not too sure, but there are plenty of potential reasons: amassing an army? A plot to destroy him perhaps?

    This got very long-winded, but basically, my point is: I think something's up with Snoke's throne.
     
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    Very interesting!

    It would be cool if that was the case, either overtly or subtly.
     
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    Snoke’s The Golden Master.
     
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