SPOILER Speculation Storyboard

That was amazing! Easily enjoyed. If I were to critique anything it would be the slides show format. The autopsy is too fast, and it doesn't fit well on a cell screen. Also, getting someone to read and edit grammar before presentation. It wasn't bad, but the few errors fixed would have made this perfect. Loved it. Looking forward to any of your future posts.

 

I would stick with the rumor too, I'm just really questioning the source. Those who have worked on the film have stated many times they did not receive complete scripts. This is consistent with past star wars films. So if the actors working on the set do not know if Han lives or dies the likely hood that such an absolute major moment like this would leak through such a simple device is an offense that should get several people, possibly including the director fired. It is hard to believe they hide the scene from everyone working on the film only to leak the key plot point in his source? I don't believe it, sorry. I think its a conclusion he draws passed off as a fact based on misreading a source.

This is to ignore the point I have harped on from the very beginning. There is no way to have a feel good star wars film, bringing us back to our youth if you kill Han. Nothing else in that movie matters. Nothing.

Also, why is everyone ignoring comments from JJ himself that he had been told his whole life that Harrison hated Han Solo and wanted him killed and when they get to the set, he gets the exact opposite of what he had heard. Why do we ignore JJ abrams for MSW?

 

I can't wait for the new movie to come out, and I come to this site and others every day. I know the basic plot and many of the scenes. However, going through this breakdown sort of depressed me. I guess deep down I was really hoping for a lot more of the Big 3 (preferably together one last happy time). But I guess that is not going to happen. I know I will love the new Big 3, but I guess a selfish part of me was hoping to spend a bit more time with my 'old friends' before turning it loose to the new guys.

I'm not JJ Abrams or Lawrence Kasden, and flame away, I do not mind. But I almost wish it started in some swashbuckling style the first 5 minutes with 'Queen Lea' being held captive, and ole' Han Solo and Chewie trying their best to break through and save her, but Han's questionable decisions (although sometimes humorous) leads them being captured bringing them all to the brink of destruction. And then out of nowhere, bearded Luke appears and in some kick-ass Jedi style slays all the enemies except one. While Luke and the enemy battle, Han, Lea and Chewie frantically try to break free. With Lea's help, Han is able to break free but is still defenseless. Han is able to retrieve a gun from one of Luke's victims, but he can not get a clean shot on Luke's nemesis (who is not a Sith, but is clearly an agile warrior who will not succumb to jedi mind tricks). Luke finally gains the upper hand and summoning all his strength does a force push separating himself from the enemy. And with a wink he shouts to Han "You're all clear kid, now lets blow this thing and go home". At which point Han takes care of the enemy.

I know we could not have the same movie and storyline we have now with something like that, but it really would have given us old timers (you know, 42 year olds) a chance to watch our heroes in action and say "wow they are still kicking ass after all these years....just like I knew they would be".

I guess my other gripe is we are getting an Empire Strikes Back ending in the first act of the trilogy. There doesn't seem to much interaction between Poe and the other two. I guess they knew they were going to have to kill Han off (maybe because Ford said he would only do this one), and maybe there wasn't an easy way to end this one on a happy note.

 

I'm wondering if there is a meetup of Resistance fighters or if they come to extract Poe from Jakku. We'll see in December!

 

Firstly, fantastic post OP!

Secondly, why on earth did someone give OP a trolling rating? Even if you completely disagree with their conclusions, or had some kind of critique about the format or medium, how does that post deserve a negative rating?

IMO, if you're thinking of giving someone a trolling rating you should remind yourself of this definition first. At least 75% of the trolling ratings I see around here lately are misused.

Sorry, rant over

 

Extremely, extremely good work sir. Grab yourself a drink from the Cantina, on the house...

A couple thoughts:

- I don't believe Han dies. Not one bit. In the odd event he does die, I think it will be a much more meaningful death. One of the posters above made a good point that they're ditching the father-son dynamic too soon. I also remember it being reported that Ford signed a multi-picture deal with Disney (some say it was for one star wars film and a few others, or a few star wars films, it wasn't specific)
- Act 2 feels short. I feel like there are subplots or other story beats that are missing.
- I feel like Poe is underdeveloped and under-utilized. I don't like how Maz disappears either (which refers to my point directly above this one -- I still feel like we're missing a lot of info.
- Act 3 feels about right, but I truly don't think Luke is only in the last scene, as is rumored. I also feel like we're missing some significance in regards to bother Uber and the First Order's weapon.

 

There was a concept piece that depicted a fight outside the falcon. I don't believe I saw it in the deck. However, it was an early piece and may have been scrapped.

You put a ton of work into this. Congrats.

 

Thanks. I knew I remembered it.

You put a ton of thought into piecing it together, instead of the one-off scene that's usually on the forums. The big picture and shaking things off that didn't make sense early on certainly helps.

 

Just passing this along...

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/05/s...anet-which-it-most-likely-is-and-whats-there/

 

Definitely a good read. It has a good flow to it and really would make a good film if done following this. I'm still hoping we've got a bit of things left well-hidden for December though.

But still, great work on it. It was almost like reading a novella, very enjoyable.

 

Great work on this OP. I will say this though, that judging from what you have, the lightsaber in question is ambiguous regarding its origin. The way you've written it, it makes it sound like it came from the fledging Jedi academy and doesn't necessarily align with the popular rumor that it's the lightsaber that Luke lost in Coud City. I'm not saying that your train of thought is wrong, it's just a different take than what I've read so far here and elsewhere.

 

I am honestly amazed that this logical connection hasnt gotten more play on the boards.

It seems very plausible to me that the flashback is showing the journey of the lightsaber and the Jedi Academy scene is showing the original massacre by Anakin using said saber.

Not saying it is what I want or that there aren't a myriad of other possibilities. Just that this would seem to fit the facts that we do know and make reasonable sense.

 

That's an interesting line of thought. You could even go as far as to speculate that the actor MSW thought was playing a young Luke in the flashback sequence, was actually hired to play Anakin/Vader.

 

Bravo! Very well reasoned. The main issue I've been grappling with in terms of the outline that has been slowly forming for this film is that we know lots about *what* happens, but almost nothing about *why* it's happening. And the little bit of motivation we do seem to know about is pretty weak. I feel like this takes us one step closer toward understanding the real motivations behind the events of this movie. However, assuming your theory is correct, now that we know why the flashback is occurring - to tell us the history (and future?) of the saber - the bigger question is why does that history matter? This scene seems to be a pivotal moment in the film, so the information that is revealed by that flashback must be really important. I feel like the answer to this question will be the driving force behind the movie.

 

If Anakin’s lightsaber is indeed important to TFA (i.e. holding information or whatnot), which is the reason it was passed on to Luke in the first place, then Darth Vader would presumably know that it is important. Fighting Luke in the bowls of Cloud City, he would probably have recognized the lightsaber, and after defeating Luke, Vader might very well have had it collected off screen. Our "memory stick" lightsaber might therefore have been in Vader’s collection ever since, and the plot wouldn’t need a deus ex machina moment to explain how the lightsaber moves from Bespin to wherever it shows up in TFA; someone simply finds it in Vader’s secret stash. (Such as certain pirate, for instance, who might stumble upon a secret vault or something, guided there by force sensitiveness to the fateful artifact stored therein; or someone completely different could have found it, such as the First Order folks having "inherited" it from the Empire, which could be why wannabe-Vader joins that faction).

Now, I am far from convinced that the lightsaber actually is the MacGuffin for TFA, but it could work well thematically. If they do it right, then I’m sure I’ll love having the lightsaber tie all trilogies together. If the rumored flashback scene is actually an overview of the lightsaber’s history, then I think that would be very cool indeed. As a storytelling technique, I have nothing against flashbacks, (even though they tend to be badly used as a lazy cheat), and I think this could be interesting.