SPECULATION The Fate Of Ezra Bridger...

I'm hoping he turns to the dark side. It would be really great for the narrative if he at least dabbled in the dark. Especially if it means more Maul

 

Well based on the trailers and all for maul, he is conflicted now that he's lost and isn't a Sith but I could see Ezra leaving with maul at the end of the season finale but comes back as a dual light/dark Jedi and brings maul back to the light .

 

I think Darth Vader will disable both Ahsoka and Ezra (possibly taking one of Ezra's limbs) and then brutally and powerfully torture and kill Kanan in front of them as a warning to Ahsoka and as a temptation to Ezra. Vader wont kill Ahsoka. Ahsoka may disappear again after. Ezra will continue on as a Rebel but slowly turn to the Dark side and end up being part of the Knights of Ren story. If Ahsoka is killed it will be by the Emperor not Vader. In reality Ahsoka would have more influence and closeness to Vader than Luke or Leia. Ahsoka was as close to a child to Anakin as one can get without being her actual father.

This would cause some amount of conflict between Vader and the Emperor.

 

I think it's expected considering how close he came before.

 

1) Lor San Tekka is old enough to remember the Clone Wars. Ezra was born at the very end.
2) He isn't Force sensitive.
On your theory that Kanan will fall to the Dark Side...I highly doubt it. He keeps showing his devotion to the light and that devotion has only grown since the beginning of the series. Don't forget, he did let go when it came to Ezra during the Inquistor vision in the Lothal temple.

Again, just because we don't see a character who wasn't created yet in the original trilogy doesn't mean they are dead or even aren't there. It's not like the activities of Luke, Han, Leia, etc. are the only things the Rebel Alliance was doing at the times of each film.

 

I do think all the Force-Sensitives need to go, otherwise, Luke and Obi-Wan shouldn't be Leia's last resort. Well, Obi-Wan, to be exact, but you get the gist. Especially since we know she knows about Ezra and Kanan, as well as Bail does. Plus, he's been working with Ahsoka.

Regarding Ezra... Yep, I see him going dark. Perhaps for the same reason Anakin does, to save people he cares about, like when he tapped into the dark side, managing to connect with that giant creature. It was done out of fear for Kanan, sure, but still, it was a much, much larger power than anything he's experienced before... And more useful.

 

I agree that something must happen thanks to Yoda's line and knowledge of those three, but my comment is more about the rest of the Ghost crew.

 

Oh yes, I do agree with that. I'd hate to see something happen to Hera/Zeb/anyone else, though Hera's kinda bound to be devastated through Kanan.

 

I think Ezra is a young snoke. He will learn from the sith holocron and become a powerful darkside user and take over the empire post ROTJ.

 

Ezra is much more complex character than those young heroes shown in Episode 7. It would be good if he would be impersonated by a real actor. On the other side, it is even better the "cartoon" character that gives him the freedom of movement, and do not restrict him to the personality of one man/boy that is anyway humanly limited.

The main advance of Rebels compared to the Episodes, imo, is the invention of a new character (Ezra) who has the Force. If we think of the overall performance of the "Family of Anakin", it failed the Good side twice already. That failure costed too expensive to the Republic and the galaxy. It was not only personal fight for the soul of Dart Vader or his grandson. It were millions of ruined lives thanks to one gross mistake to Anakin, and then his grandson. We don't know how many more times his descendants will fail it in future. Even when they have such a master teacher as Luke. The question is inevitable: do we need such an approach to the Universal Force that puts its human owners in position to be able to ruin the entire intially good order in the galaxy with few decisions made by personal motivation? (Anakin decided for the dark side to "save the life" of Padme).

It is a time Star Wars saga to turn its attention to the other countless Jedi (or potential ones) throughout the galaxy who are not to be excluded from the Universal Force. That concerns also the young viewers, who would be more attached to a character closer to themselves, as Ezra, than to a lineage and someone chosen, no matter if he is good or turning to the dark side.

In that way, I do not see any chance for Ezra to turn to the Dark Side. He is alternative of Anakin, not his repetition. He may use it, as he already showed capacity of doing so, but he will control it with the Good side.

His experience in the Temples, although not exactly what I've expected to be, is somehow a fulfilled prediction of my posts a year ago. That the serial must turn more on the spiritual qualities and unanswered answers from Yoda's time and teaching of the young Luke. That Ezra, together with Kanan or alone, must go under deeper understanding of that spirituality, in an ancient temple, with an ancient master (Yoda or another one) for principle questions that were not discussed so far in any Star Wars movie. What we saw in the Temples was a good experience but not a completed one. His conversation with Yoda was not quite clear. May be it was meant to be a such, but the kids viewers must know more of the answers as well, because that forms their minds and not so much the light saber duels. In the temple of the Sith, Ezra could use the powered holochron station to attack Vader and save Ashoka. Kanan was wrong again, by telling him to take away the holochron.

I am really sorry for losing Ashoka and incapacitating Kanan in that finale. It seems the 3rd season will deal more with Ezra alone seeking answers elsewhere. Including by moving thru space and time (as we know it is possible), outside the current reach of planets and close circles of personages. He doesn't have to face Vader as the ultimate evil, before he grows stronger for that.

To make him die, will not be the best answer. Why to introduce him only to die untimely death? Only because Episode 4 doesn't have him inside? Episode 4 was made decades ago in quite different times of earth's own history, reflecting different problematic (the fall of the cold war compared to the fall of the empire, etc). Now we have something new, and let keep going with it.

And, I wonder, if some filmmakers copy ideas, something good to do when those ideas are posted in the forum dedicated to that, would they ever give credit to their authors? I want to know, what I and other people write, dedicating not only their time but also thoughts, imagination, insight of future (in the saga as well as in the real earth society life reflected in the saga), is not a waste time.

P.S. Ezra and his team have many more options than enclosed circles suggest. One example: where did the Rebels in Episode 4 come from, where were they born? They have an army with spaceships that suggests planets under their control with resources and bases to build them. If we go back in star wars time to Episode 3 and Clone Wars, we will see that not every system joined the Republic. There were quite many thousands although not majority, who chose to side with then Trade federation led coalition against the Republic. When the things changed with the coup d'etat of Palpatine/clones, those systems who weren't part of the Republic, weren't part of the Empire as well. So we get the Outer rim that was always backyard and sort of independent region. But also all those systems who were already organized in loosen structure opposing the Republic. It is more logical to seek there the birthplace of the Rebellion that we see amassed with fleet to oppose the Death Star in Episode 4. Let not forget the galaxy is a vast place with may be a trillion of star systems.

Ezra has a place to go anywhere among those rebellion planets, and to find any ancient temple to continue his growing in the Force. The capacity of the remarkable ships traveling thru hyperspace, should be used fully, not only for transport between nearby star systems. In theory, hyperspace jump is also a time jump. But even if we don't jump from time to time on the timeline, still the space is quite big. The traces of old masters of the Force should be many. Not just finding temples, but finding authentic teaching is what is missing still.

Palpatine could kill everyone with the order 66, but make the important notice: everyone who was INSIDE the Republic, not outside of it and outside the reach of the Clone troopers. Not those Jedi who resided somehow in the star systems that did not belong to the republic. Were they such Jedi? Even if it was said in Episode 4 that there weren't surviving Jedi, that is not a dogma. Let not dogmatise the best movie of 4 decades that shaped the minds of generations. Let make the most of it, for the sake of the current generation of kids that learn from it. A good start was to speak about midichlorians in Episode 1. Well, that may reach a conflict point with the earth's religions who will be envious that the kids in their millions prefer to watch the Jedi instead. Not if it is explained properly. In that way, the serial Rebels is irreplaceable as a place to explain in more detail things that cannot be said in the limited time of the Episodes.

P.P.S. What happened after Episode 6 the victory over the second Death Star? We saw fireworks over Coruscant. Why in Episode 7 we see Lea although a general, still playing on the side of resistance and not on a side of a elected government that rues Coruscant? Or did she, without being demonstrated as such in the movie? How is it that the victory in Episode 6th wasn't a victory over the entire empire or at least at core planets of it? Here we could go easily into dogmatism again, if we say "that cannot happen, because it cannot happen". The empire was defeated but not fuly. How many more systems were left under imperial grasp.

The script of one episode is simply not enough. Episode 7 proves there isn't dogmatism in interpretation of timeline or events, rather new solutions are constantly sought. For example, how is it possible the nearly perfect Master Luke who resisted the emperor himself unlike his father Anakin, to fail so big with the training of his nephew the son of Han and Lea? That event, along with others, shows the door of other possibilities left for more to come. Not to circle in a closed time- space.

Independent cells or even entire star systems could survive undetected, as Dagobah of Yoda and that of Luke in Episode 7. I think Hera's base will be such place. The point is we let the story continue without restraining it in frames, because such were not set in Episode 4 or anywhere. It is not meant to be a closed circle of time with no escape. Because if that is to be the case, we will have the Empire winning in every episode and serial, even when it loses death stars and planets in apocalyptic explosions. We will have the evil winning in every generation of the saga. And that is not something to be followed.

I'd rather see the young Ezra becoming later a teacher of other kids who feel the Force, rather than to be sacrificed in a pre-determined script to explain again and again how the evil took over. We already have Anakin for that purpose. We have Obi Wan's death, we have most recently Han Solo's. What we need is a definite and continuous victory of the good side, not of the dark side. Not so much temptation of the dark side. We need a more detailed definition of what the good side is. In words comprehensible by children who watch all that. Otherwise, it is not surprise they take their "sabers" and play always the dark lords. Because the dark lords almost always win, or at least pose as the winners. And the good ones almost always run in each next episode, be it for their lives or for their mission. Is this the overall message? We have to run from unknown yet force in order to preserve not only our lives but also the good side we keep within ourselves? if this is the main message, it is already delivered. We shall see in the next episodes and serials, hopefully, whether the trends will change and we will see a winning Good side of the Force. Together with ascended Ezra who not only overcomes the dark side (by controlling it most likely) but also is capable to lead the rebels or may be to train the new generation kids.

It doesn't need all to end in Episode IV Alderaan simply because the galaxy is wider than the presented portion of it, and that group of Ezra and others could continue their way of the Force beyond the reach of the Empire. And to form the formidable fleet that destroyed the first Death Star. We already know, it is not Ezra who will oppose Vader. It is Luke Skywalker, already done thing in Episode V-VI. That doesn't mean Ezra is destined to die or to turn evil. We need more good heroes alive! They are not that many. Currently only Luke and Lea keep their positions, with the new young girl who climbs the stairs. It is too few in the overall saga where we see good after good Jedi being killed, or worse - being converted to the dark side.

Will the message sent to the mass watching kids would be: "run for your lives and to keep the goodness away from the evil ones", or "the victory is ours soon", or neither of it? Both messages are kind of good ones in their own way and purpose. With the increasing number of key people turning to the dark side, and others gone, we risk to lose both messages.

Without a winning good personage who remain on the good side of the Force, at the same time young enough to be associated directly with the kids watching, the message would turn to be completely different and I don't want to comment it. Indeed, Episode 7 ended optimistically, but be sure to expect a new incarnation of the dark force in the next episode. We need the good hero to step in more decisively, be it inside the Serials or inside the Rebels, or both. Or,..."the empire has already won", would say Obi Wan to the young Luke in Yoda's hovel.

 

I know this may seem irrelevant, but who else thinks that Rebels seems nothing like Star Wars? Their clothes I think is what it is mostly but something seems off about the show. I mean, it is good but seems off.

 

For me it is the costume design, certainly. I am weary of the asymmetrical single shoulder pad/ knee pad thing they do with side characters (non-OT/PT). A lot of other franchises do that for some reason, like designing a costume means putting them in some military style outfit and then adding a lone piece of armor makes it complete.

I think it's time Ezra ditched his street rat outfit and either moves closer to a Jedi (like Luke in ROTJ) or a Rebel trooper (Luke in the Yavin Medal Ceremony or even ESB) kind of looks.

 

Yeah I don't like how it is a futuristic military type design. And inside Kanan's ship interior is just weird, with the spray paint and how it looks almost TO detailed. Like in the OT everything was just basic and I liked that, it made the universe seem worn and believable. With Rebels the outfits are just so complex and weird.

 

I like Ezra's outfit the way it is. If he changes it to something else, it should be consistent with his character. Not with the character of Luke, even less with that of the failed Anakin. BTW I don't think the boy Anakin had any better outfit on his dusty planet, or behaved any closer to a future jedi, the "one who will bring the balance". He was quite rude, although his younger age made him looking sympathetic.

Don't understand why Ezra is not accepted with the same dose or realism, instead he is expected to show super qualities coming out of nowhere.

Luke was a different story, he was already born half jedi thanks to his father and was taken from his adopting family by Ben who was living nearby. Quite made up story isn't it. I'd wish I had the chances in life Luke had. It was meant Luke to be what he became later. In comparison, it was not meant for Anakin, or for Ezra. They both were discovered by chance or by the will of the Force.

The whole idea of introducing a new character not belonging to the chosen family, requires Ezra to make a difference. He must show something we didn't see in Luke and Anakin, if he is going to surpass the already established status quo. Otherwise there would be no need of him to appear in first place. For now he is doing great. Hope he will continue in that way. Growing wiser but not losing his identity for a jedi type unification that failed great. Therefore, no need for Ezra to put on the Jedi robe anytime soon.

 

I think Ezra will become a Dark Jedi. I don't think he'll go to the Sith or anything. Furthermore I think Kanan will become more wise and understanding and guide Ezra better than he ever did before. Ezra will be tempted and certainly play with the Dark Side, but he's going to stay good... just with hints of darkness.

 

With every episode Ezra gets a deeper understanding of the Force, he contacts the minds or fields of various creatures in planets or even in the outer space. That's already the grown up leader who can hold the Sith holochron and still to be as unattached to the dark side as its actual followers have never been. Because he doesn't want it to master over him, he wants it to understand it, as Asuko said. Perhaps he will command the dark side to certain degree, in the service of the good side. The more I watch him, the more I like him. Having Kanan with hurt eyes he would probably move to more philosophical position as that of the old Ben and Yoda. With the unhappy sacrifice of Asuko to save them, Ezra remains practically the only Jedi in the serial. He has no other way but continuously to grow in understanding the Force. BTW his eyes and skull are quite big for ...human from earth. As we should expect to be, he was not born from Earth, but from Lothal...So reexamine Ezra to see all his good characteristics. Including playing a very near to human from earth Galactic brother, not necessarily copying 100% of our facial expressions, to present to the kids a person whom they can follow, may be without all acrobatic jumps though.

 

Who's Asuko ? What confuses me about all of this is that they're making Ezra seem almost even more important than Skywalkers and all so his fate seems like it can either go extreme and kill him or go the other way and have him become something really evil...I don't know but they shouldn't be putting so much importance on one character that has nothing to do with the main arc of star wars.

 

Asuko or Ashoka whatever...

Although I always liked Luke, I never liked the fact he was a chosen one, and not I. The failure of Anakin, despite the fact he was conceived by midichlorians, followed by the failure of Han's son Ben, nephew of Luke and trained by him, is too much to continue support of one only chosen family. What guarantees that the other descendants will be better?

Instead, what we had in the Republic was a school of gifted children all over the spectrum of galactic races. The saga needs to go back to its roots, of a Universal Force which personifications may or may not follow one or more family lines. Ezra appears to be exactly such example, of a generation not involved with previous failures. His approach to the force is unique for himself. Not necessary to copy another Jedi, although he has to grow in the Force. He already said he doesn't want to be a jedi.

Jedi order failed big. Luke alone would not be able to restore it. We need more people like Ezra, and not to cancel him because he is different. I remember one episode of Clone Wars how different races children got their light saber crystals. One of them was Wookie. The film has to go back to a multicultural multi-planetary scheme of Force, with characters that show their uniqueness. So tomorrow your kids and mine to be happy finding themselves within the company of those good characters, and not always to want to play the dark lords. Because until now, the dark lords have shown more uniqueness and skills than their light counterparts. May be Luke is exception.

That trend should be changed, and I am happy it has been changing with the non standard character of Ezra. If we are thinking of Star Wars as the main formation film of 4 decades in the area of space/sci-fi and not only, and not of the next money booster. I think in that way, for both the main Episodes and the TV serials. They are meant to show the big picture to young generations thru the modern film techniques, and for now they are doing great. Here I am not commenting how successful the choices of new characters were in Episode 7. But how successful was the choice of the main character of Rebels. He now remains the only acting Jedi in the TV serial. What will follow from now on? Questions that surpass the serial itself. I definitely refuse to follow the script of Episode 4 as the only available future of the saga (already elaborated). Written in the Cold War, it is not everything we need now for the purpose of our time and events on Earth. Episode 1 showed clearly in the Galactic Senate how the Star Wars saga follows (or even precedes) events happening in our earth societies.

 

The issue here is that Ezra isn't A Skywalker and The main SW issues rely on Skywalkers.

 

You guys are so much anti-Ezra. You don't give arguments why it is not so, you just say it is not so because it cannot be so. I even received a red mark for my long posts to contribute for better understanding of this unique character.

My last year work in this forum proved quite much correct in the Season 2!

If we are to seek differences from the original saga, Clone Wars also weren't close to the main episodes. I wouldn't comment in detail, but they drifted quite much at times, sometimes presenting evil characters in the Episodes as good or almost good ones in the Clone Wars.

Episodes 1,2,3 differ quite much from the original trilogy as well.

The new characters introduced in Episode 7, are interesting by themselves, but as much detached from Luke's original character and duel Luke -Vader. Still we enjoy the great show of a continued Star Wars saga with new faces and new means of battle as well.

We are not living in a static universe and time trap, or do we?